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Holland rules are a mess

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Holland rules are very difficult to understand. I hope they get fixed along with everything else. 1 of the Russian national advantages means the games is already over so it’s superfluous.

I hope you keep the game like it is now where Germany/Italy don’t have to attack UK/France/Poland/etc. for the first few turns, but I doubt that was the intent of the designers. It’s a lot of fun seeing France as tough as Germany on the Western front in those scenarios.
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Further more in a similar situation as above, can a NB in a territory of your ally serve the requirements for shipbuilding for an IC you own as long as they are adjacent to the same sz? Say the Italians take Holland and build a NB (sz 16). Would the Italian NB allow the Germans to drop ships into sz 16 from their adjacent major IC in W Germany?

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