1939 Map

[HBG]

@crusaderiv:

That looks like the 4ft.x8ft. map in the video. I dont think that will be practical for most people as a special walk around table will be required to reach all parts of the map. I would think that a 3x6 size would sell better.
I have done my own map with a 4x8 table.
No one critize the dimension.
What’s wrong with this map. You think it takes too much time to walk around??!!?? :oops:

That is why I offer for sale a 34x72" version on my website.
Two sizes for what you prefer.

[Fishmoto37]

Absolutly nothing wrong with a 4x8 map. Wish I had room somewhere to set one up. That is my point, I do not think that most AA player do. I guess I could set one up in my garage but I just do not think that would be practical. I have a game room with a 3x6 bench where I can leave a game setup until finished. Your 34x72 would be just right for that.

[Fishmoto37]

Tigerman, your rules state that Italy does not declare war on the allies until France (Paris) falls. Did you intend for the French fleet to be able to attack Germany in the Baltic and to attack Italy in the Med. on F1? Italy is supposed to be a pro-axis neutral at that point of the game. In our test game today my friend playing the allies decided to make both attacks because France would probably lose their ships anyway.

[Tigerman77]

@Fishmoto37:

Tigerman, your rules state that Italy does not declare war on the allies until France (Paris) falls. Did you intend for the French fleet to be able to attack Germany in the Baltic and to attack Italy in the Med. on F1? Italy is supposed to be a pro-axis neutral at that point of the game. In our test game today my friend playing the allies decided to make both attacks because France would probably lose their ships anyway.

Italy is pro axis, but didn’t declare war on the allies til after France was defeated. So if Germany does not take Paris on the first turn then the French fleet is able to attack the german fleet. French fleet in the Med. cannot attack the Italian fleet because. If Germany fails to take Paris then Italy is still neutral, if Germany takes Paris and invokes the Vichy rule only free french can attack. If Germany decides not to invoke Vichy rule, then all remaining French units are considered free french, join the allies and move on UK turn.  I hope this clarrifies this rule for you. If you have anymore Questions feel free to ask.

[Fishmoto37]

@Tigerman77:

@Fishmoto37:

Tigerman, your rules state that Italy does not declare war on the allies until France (Paris) falls. Did you intend for the French fleet to be able to attack Germany in the Baltic and to attack Italy in the Med. on F1? Italy is supposed to be a pro-axis neutral at that point of the game. In our test game today my friend playing the allies decided to make both attacks because France would probably lose their ships anyway.

Italy is pro axis, but didn’t declare war on the allies til after France was defeated. So if Germany does not take Paris on the first turn then the French fleet is able to attack the german fleet. French fleet in the Med. cannot attack the Italian fleet because. If Germany fails to take Paris then Italy is still neutral, if Germany takes Paris and invokes the Vichy rule only free french can attack. If Germany decides not to invoke Vichy rule, then all remaining French units are considered free french, join the allies and move on UK turn.  I hope this clarrifies this rule for you. If you have anymore Questions feel free to ask.

Thanks for your response. That is how I wanted to play it but my friend insisted that the French attack the Italians. I think we will keep the Italians neutral from now on. You had posted that you were going to have a rules update. Anything new on that?

[Tigerman77]

Update

Updated map file for 36X72 maps    http://www.mediafire.com/?4sa162uv777ucs4   Or you can get it from the top of this thread. Also I have the latest revision of the Global rules here     http://www.mediafire.com/?1d5q2l7v53k5bvn    and at top of thread also.

If there are any questions or feedback please feel free to ask here on thread or private message.

[belislesteve]

I wanted to added light and heavy tank

light tank
Move 2
2 or 3 just attack if the enemy possesses Infantry
Defence 2
IPC 5

Middle tank
Move 2
Attack 3
Defence 3
IPC 6

Heavy Tank
Move 2
Attack 4
Defence 4
IPC 8
Advantage must receive 2 shot to be destroyed, and can be repaired in an area with a factory, it costs nothing.

Give me your opinion thank you

[Tigerman77]

I like the idea here except for the heavy tank taking 2 hits. Either make the cost 7 or attack at a 5 and defend at a 4.  In a D12 system heavy tank could attack at a 7,8, or 9. Not too much of an advantage but enough to make it worth the purchase. Also like the idea of light tank +1 if attacking inf only.

[crusaderiv]

Light tank
MV = 2 (can retreat after 1 round of combat)
att = 2
def = 2
cost = 5 (4 for germany and USSR)

medium tank
mv = 2 (can retreat after 1 round of combat)
att = 3
def = 3
cost = 6 (5 ofr USSR, USA and Germany)

heavy tank
mv = 1 (cannot retreat but two shot to destroy)
att = 4
def = 4
cost = 7 (6 for USSR, germany and USA)

self propelled gun
mv = 2 (cannot retreat)
att & def = 2 (can only destroy tank but first shot attack capability against tank)
cost = 7 (Only USSR,germany and USA may build SPG)

[belislesteve]

I thought changed mechanized infantry, by a transport truck

Attack 0
défence 0
Move 0
cost  1IPC or 2IPC
transports 2 infantry

Given me your opinion

[Tigerman77]

Trucks could cost 4 IPC and transport 2 infantry. This could allow you to have mobile infantry and mechanized infantry……Mech being more armored infantry.

[Deaths Head 420]

I like the Map Coach, I do think all the roundels Clutter it up a bit to much though.

Also, I don’t think you should Sell this Map. You got the Template for free. (from Me)
It should be a free down load, for anyone to have.  Just Cause you Covered up the A&A Buy chart with roundels doesn’t make it right, or changing the color of territories.

I did not charge for my map, and all you did was alter it a bit and are charging $ for this?
Just not right in my book, but whatever.

I guess I should have charged people as well (over 1500 Downloads of original file), But I just wanted to share this Beautiful artwork and Game concept with as many people as possible.

I do like where you are going with this, but Disagree with charging people for it

[HBG]

Map is a Free Download on my site and the AAA threads, it always has been
I only offer the map for sale for printing, since I can print it cheaper than most other people can.

@Deaths:

I like the Map Coach, I do think all the roundels Clutter it up a bit to much though.

Also, I don’t think you should Sell this Map. You got the Template for free. (from Me)
It should be a free down load, for anyone to have.  Just Cause you Covered up the A&A Buy chart with roundels doesn’t make it right, or changing the color of territories.

I did not charge for my map, and all you did was alter it a bit and are charging $ for this?
Just not right in my book, but whatever.

I guess I should have charged people as well (over 1500 Downloads of original file), But I just wanted to share this Beautiful artwork and Game concept with as many people as possible.

I do like where you are going with this, but Disagree with charging people for it

[reloader-1]

I agree with Coach - he is not selling anything other than the printed copies of the map, and cheaper than we can make them.

[Tigerman77]

I tried getting this map printed and it was gonna cost me $240. Coach’s prices for these printed maps are very resonable and very high quality!  IMHO.

[DrLarsen]

Here, Here to that!  It’s called economies of scale: Coach has the connections and the retail infrastructure to help us get something cheaper than we could do it ourselves; it’s a win-win all around, way I see it!  I bought a nice Risk map on ebay for like 5 bucks once… cost me another 40 to get it laminated at Kinko’s.  50-100 bucks for a vinyl map this size seems about right to me.

[reloader-1]

As someone who works in the investments/finance industry, this is capitalism at it’s finest: a win for all.

Value was created by deathshead, capital was added by coachofmany, and lower prices are the result.

[belislesteve]

SETUP: THERE IS NO UNIT FRENCH OF THE 2 TERRITORY, FRENCH INDOCHINA SAIGON ???

THE SETUP IS CORRECT

[Tigerman77]

@belislesteve:

SETUP: THERE IS NO UNIT FRENCH OF THE 2 TERRITORY, FRENCH INDOCHINA SAIGON ???

THE SETUP IS CORRECT

This is correct. If you want put 1 Infantry piece in siagon. If you had militia or light infantry it would be diufferent. In 1939 there were no modern(1939) division size French military units in southeast asia.

[FieldMarshalGames]

I made new set-up charts and a slight Variant for this map if anyone is interested

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=22563.0