1940 europe
USA in global only get 30 IPC in war NO
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Is that +30 for the Eastern side or in replacement for the +40 that Pacific has?
I’m curious as I would be a little annoyed if the printed 10/50 on the Western half of my map ends up being some other number during the global game. What are we supposed to do, tape over it?
Glue works too. That’s a fixable thing as well. We can (and someone will) make an online printable map. They won’t get paid, and They’ll spend more time than they should (they should spend 0). It’s ok though. All games have this problem. I mean, haven’t you guys been to the forum where the RISK players fix the map errors and order the missing pieces and have errata rules?
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@The:
Is that +30 for the Eastern side or in replacement for the +40 that Pacific has?
I’m curious as I would be a little annoyed if the printed 10/50 on the Western half of my map ends up being some other number during the global game. What are we supposed to do, tape over it?
Glue works too. That’s a fixable thing as well. We can (and someone will) make an online printable map. They won’t get paid, and They’ll spend more time than they should (they should spend 0). It’s ok though. All games have this problem. I mean, haven’t you guys been to the forum where the RISK players fix the map errors and order the missing pieces and have errata rules? Does anyone ever get the feeling that they could make a better game? No one ever wants to say it b/c they’ll look like a jackass. Someone will undoubtably say “well then you make a better game”. Pay me. And I will.
Let me see some samples of your work first.
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Larry told in his forum, and this is also quoted in the fact thread above, that in the global game USA will only get a wartime bonus of 30 IPC. That means USA will get a total of 80 IPC when at war, to spend as he likes, either all in one theater or a little here and a little there. This is the facts.
Now some players complains that Japan always win in AA40 Pacific, and that is when USA get 40 IPC in war bonus. How do you think this will effect play ? Will Japan get even harder to kill ?
i also was surprised about the small usa ipc total. this leads me to believe that global will not just be pac40 and euro40 pushed together, but the setup will be different. so to answer your question i do not think it means game play will definitely be negatively effected or make japan harder to kill
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this does exaggerate an existing problem.
at first i was not upset that the pac40 map had 10/50 printed the west usa territory. after re-reading the rules i noticed that the 40ipc increase was a national objective and the territory is not and would never be worth 50ipc(japan can not convoy raid for more than 10ipc and if they capture west usa it is only worth 10ipc). i was rightfully pissed off. now when i play global the stupid error will be magnified.
this error will not be fixed. the rulebook was a mess, but for those of us that have found this site have had the rulebook corrected via the errata. the lack of tactical bombers was corrected by mailing the necessary pieces to play the game. however, i am sure they will not mail out a new board for this map misprint.
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Larry told in his forum, and this is also quoted in the fact thread above, that in the global game USA will only get a wartime bonus of 30 IPC. That means USA will get a total of 80 IPC when at war, to spend as he likes, either all in one theater or a little here and a little there. This is the facts.
Now some players complains that Japan always win in AA40 Pacific, and that is when USA get 40 IPC in war bonus. How do you think this will effect play ? Will Japan get even harder to kill ?
but don’t forget:
The russians will be at japans’ backdoor, so you’ll need those forces at korea and manchuria
China might get some aid it needs
India might be stronger with reinforcements from europe -
okay, i don’t get it
so, US only gets +30 for being at war?
they get 17 starting income from pacific
so US gets in the europe game 33?
cause everybody mentions 80 IPC? -
@Frontovik:
okay, i don’t get it
so, US only gets +30 for being at war?
they get 17 starting income from pacific
so US gets in the europe game 33?
cause everybody mentions 80 IPC?Maybe it’s 30 for each side?
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@Frontovik:
okay, i don’t get it
so, US only gets +30 for being at war?
they get 17 starting income from pacific
so US gets in the europe game 33?
cause everybody mentions 80 IPC?I think this is what Larry is saying.
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@Frontovik:
okay, i don’t get it
so, US only gets +30 for being at war?
they get 17 starting income from pacific
so US gets in the europe game 33?
cause everybody mentions 80 IPC?Maybe it’s 30 for each side?
No it is confirmed- +30 when at war in the global game- Larry said that then they would be making 80+ not 100+ like a lot of us expected.
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This is completely insane. How is the US supposed to do its job in the pacific and Europe without pulling around 100?
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This is completely insane. How is the US supposed to do its job in the pacific and Europe without pulling around 100?
I am sure that whatever the value is, it will be decided purely for balancing the game.
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if the US gets too much then we will quickly be complaining about how the US is overpowered. We have to remember that there will likely be changes right up to the release date and then after as well and then fixes sent out to those who recognize it and correctly point it out.
Maybe they will just send a little chip with a 30 on it to put over the W-US 40… -
Maybe. But I’m also pissed b/c I bet $5 with a friend of mine that the U.S. would get over 100 ipcs when at war with all of their territories and no NOs. I thought it was a sure gain of 5 bucks. :x
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@The:
Maybe. But I’m also pissed b/c I bet $5 with a friend of mine that the U.S. would get over 100 ipcs when at war with all of their territories and no NOs. I thought it was a sure gain of 5 bucks. :x
Well maybe Larry will change the rules if you split the winnings with him. I am sure he could use a couple extra bucks.
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@Brain:
@The:
Maybe. But I’m also pissed b/c I bet $5 with a friend of mine that the U.S. would get over 100 ipcs when at war with all of their territories and no NOs. I thought it was a sure gain of 5 bucks. :x
Well maybe Larry will change the rules if you split the winnings with him. I am sure he could use a couple extra bucks.
Larry, $2 in it for you if you add 20 IPC’s to the US. Screw game balance, you could buy yourself a double cheeseburger!
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Larry told in his forum, and this is also quoted in the fact thread above, that in the global game USA will only get a wartime bonus of 30 IPC. That means USA will get a total of 80 IPC when at war, to spend as he likes, either all in one theater or a little here and a little there. This is the facts.
Now some players complains that Japan always win in AA40 Pacific, and that is when USA get 40 IPC in war bonus. How do you think this will effect play ? Will Japan get even harder to kill ?
You got to remember that there will be several forces in those Russian territories above Manchuria. There will be an IC in S.Africa and possilbly a W.Indian territory with some forces. If US made 100+ Axis would be dead by round 5. 80+ will turn out to be just right.
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Consider this….In P40 US makes a steady 55…
In Global 40, you will be making 80+So you can split 40/40, 30/50, 60/20…whatever you like
Even dump 80/0In Pacific, you cant dump 80…because you dont have it, however. You get the benifit of the Lions Share of the US economy to make up for this.
Long story short…since you cant spend 80 in the pacific at once, you get to spend 55 instead.
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What I don’t understand is how the US is going to have enough territories to be earning 50 IPCs without the 30 IPC wartime NO to have a total of 80+ while at war.
In Pacific they don’t earn that much, and I can’t see Larry increasing the IPC value of the other US territories (EUS and CUS are only 18 IPCs together, while Panama, Brazil, and Cuba are 5 IPCs together) when WUS is still worth 10 IPCs in Pacific like it always has been.
I suppose they could be earning extra from an NO for controlling all the contiguous US territories like in AA50 (which they wouldn’t be able to do in either Pacific or Europe individually) that would also help to make up the difference between the +40 IPC wartime NO in Pacific and whatever wartime NO they’ll get only in Europe. However, in AA50 that NO was only worth 5 IPCs.
That would mean the US is making 17 IPCs from the Pacific map (assuming Japan hasn’t taken the Philippines yet), 23 from Europe map, 5 from the North America NO, and 30 from the wartime NO; giving a total of 75 IPCs. I suppose the North America NO could be 10 IPCs instead, but considering that Japan is still probably going to have the Philippines while the US is at war, that would still put the US below 80 IPCs, not above.
Perhaps there will be extra islands in the Caribbean that will be worth a few IPCs to get the US above 80, but short of that or some extra US NO on the Europe side (which there is no precedent for from AA50) I still don’t completely understand. :|
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It’s possible that EUS would be worth 15 instead of 10, putting your total at 82. Another possibility is Larry’s comment about the Middle East… US income from that somehow? Maybe…
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It’s possible that EUS would be worth 15 instead of 10, putting your total at 82. Another possibility is Larry’s comment about the Middle East… US income from that somehow? Maybe…
EUS is actually usually worth 12 IPCs, but I suppose that’s a possibility also. However, I added wrong for the contiguous US, since EUS is worth 12 IPC and CUS is worth 6 usually, that makes those two worth 18 together, not 20. edited above post So if EUS was worth 15 that would take the grand total to 78 IPCs actually.
However, what comment of Larry’s are you referring to with the Middle East? I know he’s talked about greater value there and such, but I still wasn’t aware of any possible US presence anywhere other than the Americas + Philippines as usual.
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