So if the US flies a plane to France. Germany can not attack France without declaring war on the US?
The US (starting neutral) can’t land a plane in France while being neutral.
So the answer to your question is ‘yes’ in case
HTH :-)
Do you want canada as a power
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@Brain:
Canada is better off staying with UK.
Except if Sealion works you can’t just have Cda rolling over any more than the ANZACs would pack it in if India falls.
But I think you’re right.
I don’t know what this national control marker for Cda is about… but, check LH’s turn sequence: we won’t see Cda as a separate power. -
I’d support something like the old AAP, where UK and Australia were seperate economies but had the same units and combat movement. That could work for UK and Canada. Seperate powers? That would just mean that all of Canada’s income is next to completely irrelevent.
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Since you’ve been subbing in the white UK (D-Day) units for Canadian units for a while (making them ‘trackable’), you must have some interesting stories to share…
So where do your Canadians usually end up / what’s the strangest fate they’ve suffered? (I imagine that they frequently die on the beaches of France or become the garrison guarding Norway…)
Curious to hear your anecdotes, as I find these little ‘divisional’ tales to be some of the more interesting featres of the game. For example, one of my Anniversary Ed fighters for Japan came with a deformed tail; so we always start him out on Formosa and see where the war takes him. Usually he’ll last until almost the end of the game, taking part in 3-4 important battles on the way.
I’ll be bringing in the white inf to rep the Canucks, too, once E40 is released… at which point it’ll perhaps be worth starting a “Canadian Stories” thread. :-D
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Since you’ve been subbing in the white UK (D-Day) units for Canadian units for a while (making them ‘trackable’), you must have some interesting stories to share…
So where do your Canadians usually end up / what’s the strangest fate they’ve suffered? (I imagine that they frequently die on the beaches of France or become the garrison guarding Norway…)
Curious to hear your anecdotes, as I find these little ‘divisional’ tales to be some of the more interesting featres of the game. For example, one of my Anniversary Ed fighters for Japan came with a deformed tail; so we always start him out on Formosa and see where the war takes him. Usually he’ll last until almost the end of the game, taking part in 3-4 important battles on the way.
I’ll be bringing in the white inf to rep the Canucks, too, once E40 is released… at which point it’ll perhaps be worth starting a “Canadian Stories” thread. :-D
Well I only sub in that one armoured unit from set-up and they’ve ended up usually dying in France. However, they’ve also done the grand tour of liberating Africa and reinforcing India when the player’s got in a deliberately adventurous mode with that single tank!
Now we’ll have to put a Canadian infantry in HK!
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Thanks ABC!
I hadn’t realized that the Canadians were so integral to the (unfortunately failed) defence of Hong Kong. I read up on it at this site:
Interesting stuff!
Offhand, do you know of anyplace else Canadian forces were serving in '40-'41?
From this page <http: wwii.ca=“” content-2=“” canada-at-britains-side=“”>, I got the following quote:
“The first Canadians set sail for Europe, like their fathers before them, in December 1939. Canada sent two fighter squadrons to Britain before the end of 1940, with many more to follow, and the Royal Canadian Navy was at Britain’s disposal.”
So maybe 1 fighter in britain (and, of course, the ships off of Eastern Canada) should be Canadian as well in AAE40?
The battles listed <http: wwii.ca=“” battles=“” world-war-ii=“”>seem to indicate that no Canadian ground forces were active in Europe before '42…
But Wikipedia states that:
“Many of the young soldiers of the 1st Canadian Infantry Division, overseas since December 1939, could claim, by 1943, to have spent more of their adult lives in England than in Canada. Nevertheless, this guard duty served as a bulwark, along with British counterparts, in combating the threat from German occupied Europe during the time when the threat of invasion was at its greatest.”
And…
“Between the fall of France in June 1940 and the German invasion of the USSR in June 1941, Canada supplied Britain with urgently needed food, weapons, and war materials by naval convoys and airlifts, as well as pilots and planes who fought in the Battle of Britain and the Blitz. If the planned German invasion of Britain had taken place in 1941, units of the formation later known as I Canadian Corps were already deployed between the English Channel and London to meet them.”
<http: en.wikipedia.org=“” wiki=“” military_history_of_canada_during_the_second_world_war=“”>So there’s an argument that 1 UK Inf at set-up should probably be Canadian as well. I think that pretty much covers it, but any additional information anyone has on this would be welcome…</http:></http:></http:>
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So there’s an argument that 1 UK Inf at set-up should probably be Canadian as well. I think that pretty much covers it, but any additional information anyone has on this would be welcome…
Makes sense. If I recall correctly, 1 CID was the only intact Div in England post-Dunkirk.
Not sure about the Cdn Ftr, guess it depends on how many are there in total at set-up…
Otherwise, that’s about it for being outside Cda in early '40… I think.
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Somebody on this post said something about using defect peices to add induvisual unit stories. I have 1 American bomber slighty brocken and am going to use my Phillipans bomber for that.
I might even break an ANZAC infantry for the NSW one.
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A little voice in my head told me that Canada will not be in the game.
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I argree with BD, but I will be easy enough just to use ANZAC peices as Cadadan peicies, and even add an econamy if you fell like it.
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@democratic:
I argree with BD, but I will be easy enough just to use ANZAC peices as Cadadan peicies, and even add an econamy if you fell like it.
Exactly.
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@Brain:
@democratic:
I argree with BD, but I will be easy enough just to use ANZAC peices as Cadadan peicies, and even add an econamy if you fell like it.
Exactly.
Presuming there’s an IC in Canada, I’ll just be happy to House Rule the UK govt continuing the fight from that Dominion.
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Honestly the only people who want Canada represented in the game are Canadians. It won’t change the game. It is just a national pride thing. Canadians should proud, but they won’t be in the game.
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I think you’re missing the point, 'Damaged.
We ALREADY KNOW that Canada won’t be represented OOB, other than the printing of roundels.
What we’re doing now is trying to add some flavour to the game by figuring out where Canadian units–which will act exactly the same as UK unit for game-mechanical purposes–should go in the set-up.
…If you want to have them there. Which you obviously don’t. Which is fine!
Giving them their own economy is a fine thing, as a home-brewed house rule. A good use for those new Canadian roundels. Which you are also free to ignore!
As you can hopefully see, it’s not just ‘Canadian Pride’ or whatever you’re charging. It’s about the game. So for everyone’s sake, keep your focus away from accusations of nationalism and try to contribute something productive to these discussions in the future.
Get it now?
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Well if it’s about the game, then we are going to have to add a lot more countries than Canada.
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Well if it’s about the game, then we are going to have to add a lot more countries than Canada
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Well then, we could have Scoland and NZ as their own power. That would be fun (not).
Its all about pride, the US would not be happy if they were pat of the ANZACs, as the ANZACs would not be happy if they were part of Brittan.
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There are not enough distinguishable colors for all the countries that would have to be represented by pieces.
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No, just stay with the usuals+ANZACs.
At least Canada got its own Rondol.
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Honestly, I don’t think we need the ANZAC’s in the global game.
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I’m not against Canada being house ruled in. I might even try it from time to time. Earmarking the Canadian IPC and putting a minor IC in Quebec (if it doesn’t have one) w/AB & NB would be an easy fix. I’m not sure where Canada’s major industrial hub was at that time, but I think that’s where the IC should go for game purposes. It would show some of the logistics problems that the Commonwealth had with troop movement and getting equipment/arms across the ocean.
I think the Anz was added to the game over Canada to force the UK to spend $ in the Pacific. Plus the fact that splitting the UK in the Atlantic will handy cap it slightly. It would also be tougher for both nations to build capital ships. If Canada ended up with say 10 IPC it would take two turns to build a BB or AB/NB. I guess you could come up with a Canadian NO, but would need to give one to the axis as well for balance. Unless one of UK’s NO’s could be transferred to Canada. It might be tough for the UK to get the upper hand it needs in the seas. Keep in mind that its 1940 and Germany should start with more fleet w/BB, and may have air protection in the Baltic/straight some how. Canada could grow its income by taking axis tt, but it might be at the expense of the UK, as it would normally be taking them. It could be fun for Canada to build up income, then take Norway and put an IC there to pump units directly into Europe (I like to do that w/US).
Where would Canada take its turn. In 40GL Anz gets its own turn, and will be able to can opener for USA. With the UK getting less $, and still needing to control the seas maybe Canada should go before UK to open up some doors. Maybe they should still take there turn as one nation, you’ll have to test it out could be fun.
By the way you don’t have to be Canadian to want more minor powers in of the game, although the push for a Canadian power is fueled by mostly Canadians. Its not any different then the Italians pushing hard for Italy to be a minor power a few years ago (you know what happened there) . There’s still an Italian push for nation specific sculpts. I see a lot of discussions to add yet more minor powers in Europe. Larry even said it himself that Canada could be house ruled in very easily in this game.
Who knows 5 years from now Canada might be introduced in yet another version of AA. Its the next most logical step. It would also be a very good marketing tool for the next edition (well if they believed in marketing). I can see it now: Canada a new allied power, Italy gets new naval units.
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Why did Canada get a roundel anyways if Larry says you need a house rule for Canada?
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