Island bases, with value over 2 ipc. ?.

I should also add that for a “bid”, we give the US “improved shipyards” and that seems to balance things out.

a base is soo much more than a harbour, it is all the industry, logistics and support you need to operate at maximum efficency. For pacific it means heavy convoy lines. for europe it probably also mean many rail lines and also alot of gaoline.

I like the prize at 15. it makes it expesive but worth it to build it in egypt and gibraltar.

In my games I have seen german airbase in yugo and an italian one in north italy (or is it south that starts without one)

it is also important for the dynamic, if all the german bombers are in italian controlled ukraine or rostov, an italian airbase there can make the allies less safe on the seas. that extra airbase might mean counterattack with all planes in the north sea or with bombers and finns in norway. Well worth the 15 IPC, but the italians have to save if they have to small income.

I agree that Japan should be split, and have two sz"s.

Then we could have Sea Lion on the Euro side, and Sea Serpent on the Pac side.

The few games I campaigned through China I used the jap aa gun to try and kill that ftr.  I remember it worked at least once.  a small stack against a chinese attack that is light on arty means China will have to bring the ftr to have the punch to clear the zone.  This can work great if you are cutting the Burma road every round.

I also did air raid it the first game I played Japan too.  I just don’t think that ftr is really worth gunning for.  Now if it could leave China or attack the sz’s on the coast it would be dead meat.

I’d rather kill that ftr when its attacking than having to go in and dig it out when its rolling 4’s.

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@JimmyHat:

So then perhaps a better poll would be what round do you switch to European front as the US?  It will be important to add that yes we all know all games are different, this is asking for an average.  For my latest game US turned to the Atlantic on turn 7.  After chasing off the Japanese fleet, then capturing and building an IC in Korea.

And what was the situation in Europe after that?

Still to be decided, this game is not over yet.  Germany has reached the German Soviet border and made sure to take and hold all german territories this past turn.(7)  Italy has been bringing 3 turns of 4 trn loads to Syria, a large Italian army is present in Iraq/Persia/Npersia and Most of Germany’s navy is in the Caribbean protecting panama and putting a threat out on the US coast.

I started working on a rule change aid since I’ve had some requests from a bunch of people on it.  I wanted to post my wording for you guys to confirm accuracy before posting the chart.  I’m trying to keep it all to one page which is proving difficult.

Note:  I did not add the IPC shift for UK, nor the reduction in AA gun cost as that is reflected in the Game Aid already completed.  The text will be as follows:

1.)  AA Guns are removed from play if a territory is captured.
2.)  Major Industrial Complexes are reduced to Minor Complexes upon capture.  Only the ORIGINAL owner may upgrade it back to a Major if the
      territory is liberated.  Major IC’s cannot be built on foreign territories. 
3.)  The Soviet Unions Neutrality is not effected on opposing maps when only at war with European, or Pacific Axis powers.
4.)  Scramble Rules have been changed to the following:
              1.)  Takes place at the START of the Conduct Combat Phase for powers AT WAR ONLY.
          2.)  If there is an active Air Base a total of 3 Fighters and/or Tac Bombers  located on an island or coastal territory may scrambled to the adjacent
                    Sea Zone.  Rare Sea Zone cases that are adjacent to multiple active Air Bases can scramble 3 planes per Air Base.
              3.)  Can help friendly naval units under attack or to resist an Amphibious Assault even if the Amp. Assault is on a different territory. 
5.)  Victory Conditions are as follows:  AXIS - 6 of 8 Victory Cities on Pacific Map OR 8 of 11 Victory Cities on the Europe Map
                                                    ALLIES - Control of ALL Axis Capital Cities
6.)  Unites States’ Minor Industrial Complexes are upgraded to Major when the US is at War.  These IC’s can be upgraded for the 20 IPC’s while Neutral.
7.)  Strategic Bombing Raids now follow the following order of Combat.  (Note:  Strat Bombers can attack IC’s, Air or Naval Bases.  Tac Bombers can
      attack Air or Naval Bases):
                1.)  Any Escorts (Fighters) attack at 1 against any enemy Interceptors (Fighters).  Casualties are removed IMMEDIATELY.
                2.)  Strat and/or Tac Bombers attack at 1 against any enemy Interceptors.  Casualties can defend.
                3.)  Interceptors attack at 2 against attacker Bombers.  Escorts may only be taken after ALL Bombers have been destroyed.
                4.)  Surviving Bombers declare which facility is to be targeted.
          5.)  Facility AA Gun Defense hits on 1.  Roll one die for each Bomber attack the facility.
                6.)  Bombers attack.  Strat Bombers add +2 to the dice rolled.  Tac Bombers hit on dice rolled.  Damage removal is on a 1:1 ratio.
8.)  The United States may declare war on the Axis if London and/or any North American Territory is captured.
9.)  Subs no longer can fire a ‘sneak attack’ at unescorted Transports.  Transports cannot unload from a Sea Zone with an enemy Sub unless a friendly
      warship was also present during Combat Movement.
10.)  The United States Navy, while Neutral may only occupy Sea Zones adjacent to their territories, excluding Sea Zone 102 (No transports) on the
        Europe Map.  On the Pacific Map the Navy may not end movement in Sea Zones adjacent to Japanese controlled territories.
11.)  Kamikaze Strikes can be used in any of the marked Sea Zones where an Allied player conducts Sea Combat or an Amphibious Assault is to take place.

HA!  My guys are idiots.  It is only one extra space.  Can’t wait to bust their A$$e$.  I’m glad they know how to read.  I was REFing our the Double Blind game and going back and forth.  I’ll have an After Action report on it AFTER they rewrite it!!

Thanks guys…