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What if Japan genuinely wanted a Co-Prosperity Sphere?

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@SuperbattleshipYamato It’s a bit of an odd scenario because of how Out-of-Character Japan would need to act in this scenario. Basically, you’re describing a Japan that both abandons its 1905 Alliance with Britain but also does not take an aggressive pro-colonization stance towards China while also rewriting Japan’s history of having a racial-supremacist worldview regarding themselves. All of this while the situation in the rest of the world ~1931-45 does not change at all.

But, for fun, let’s try to imagine how this would play out, assuming Japan has virtually no allies other than hypothetically joining the anti-comintern pact as Japan’s dislike of Communism remains in-play here.

~1912/5 - Point of Divergence #1 - In back-to-back and completely inexplicable flukes, the Rikken Kokumintō, rather than the Rikken Seiyūkai win the Japanese parliamentary elections twice in a row despite being severe underdogs. Japan is set on a path of closer cooperation with western (i.e. “Classical Liberalism”) sentiments/values/etc. Their participation in WW1 as Britain’s ally in unchanged.

~1918 - Japan assists in the broader Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War.

~1918/9 - Entente Powers refuse to sign the “Racial Equality Proposal”. Increased Japanese-UK/US tension ensues and the Japanese government is emboldened to take a more anti-western stance. However, in this case, the rallying cry is “Japan must disband all colonies everywhere in Asia to defeat the west” rather than “Japan must have its own colonies in Asia to achieve parity with the west”

~1919 - Point of Divergence #2 - As a result of the above, Japan finds itself relatively isolated diplomatically. The “21 Demands” are never issued to China. Rather, Japan agrees to pull out of China (abandoning the German colonies it gained during WW1), finance the Republic of China’s government and open the door to negotiate the future return of Taiwan and other nearby islands in exchange for a better trade deal, a minor adjustment of the border between Japanese Korea and Manchuria, and a formal military/political alliance. (NOTE: This is completely insane and would probably never have happened, even with a more moderate Japanese government).

This replaces the real-life “Sino-Japanese Joint Defence Agreement”, which was a blatantly more pro-Japanese treaty signed between Japan and the ROC in 1918. Said treaty, because it involved China ceding more land to Japan (after the previous disaster of the 1st Sino-Japanese war), resulted in the toppling of the ROC government of its time (“Beiyang government”), which greatly accelerated the splintering of the already fragile ROC into the various Warlord States Japan tried picking off one-by-one IRL. However, in this situation, Japan is actively returning Chinese land to China and establishing a more equal relationship between the two countries, so the Chinese government of the day persists.

Additionally, the “May 4th Movement” never occurs in China, which delays the creation/spread of the Chinese Communist Party. This will be important later.

This change, along with Japan and China’s joint attempt at passing through the Racial Equality Proposal described above, results in dramatically improved Japanese-Chinese relations from the 1920s-onwards.

~1922 - UK-Japan alliance terminated due to post-WW1 sentiment + UK drifting further into USA’s sphere of influence on a global scale. This is seen as a betrayal by Japan.

~1922 - The last Japanese troops leave Siberia. The Russian Civil War eventually results in a Communist Victory. The failure of the former Entente to prevent the spread of Communism increases anti-western sentiment in Japan.

~1924 - US bars Asians from immigrating to America. Japanese-American relations continue to deteriorate. Pro-Asian, Anti-Western sentiments continue to resonate in Japan, as even the militarists are now OK with the notion of a Japanese-Chinese relationship to topple the western colonies.

~1926 - Point of Divergence #3 - Chiang Kai-shek’s Northern Expedition fails for the following reasons:

The May 4th Movement never occurred, meaning the Beiyang government still maintained popular support and thus the KMT would have less momentum.

Japan would be actively allied to and financing the existing ROC government, and would thus be able to bring the Manchurian Warlords (The “Fengtian clique”, which historically opposed the KMT during the Northern Expedition) into closer cooperation with the Beiyang government while also providing military aid.

Before the Northern Expedition’s success, the Beiyang government was the internationally recognized government of China. Thus, beyond sporadic support from the still-young USSR, the KMT would have no international support to counter Japan’s support of the Beiyang government.

With this, the CCP, which was aligned with the KMT at this point, is also defeated, although fringe elements remain throughout Chinese society with Soviet backing. Political stability returns to China.

~1929 - The Great Depression begins, crippling the economies of many countries. Japan and China, however, are not greatly impacted. In this scenario, this puts both countries at an advantage relative to the western powers, as the west will be effectively paralyzed for almost 10 years.

~Early-1930s - Point of Divergence #4 - Japan’s nationalistic philosophy, “kokutai” gains traction as it did in real life. In this scenario, however, its aims are drastically different. Japan still views itself as a unique/divinely protected race of people, but the previous ~15 years of pro-liberal/pro-Asian rule results in a shift in objectives from blatant aggression/colonization to isolationism via the destruction of any foreign nation seen as a threat to Japan (i.e. the colony-possessing western nations. Specifically America (Philippines, Haiwaii), Britain (various), France (FIC) and the Netherlands (DEI)). A Japanese military buildup begins, focusing on the Navy.

~1934 - The USA finalizes its “Philippine Independence Act” - Promising to grant independence to the Philippines within 10 years. Japan here is already in a paranoid state and is thus distrustful of America’s intentions, and begins to infiltrate the Philippines with the intent of sowing discontent/drive for immediate independence. US-Japanese relations remain cold.

~1935 - Point of Divergence #5 - Italy invades Ethiopia. Japan and China (both still in the league of nations although both are growing disillusioned with the institution) join various other nations in opposing the move. The failure of the league to act further emboldens Japan and China against the west.

~1936 - Point of Divergence #6 - Nazi Germany offers Japan a spot in the Anti-Comintern Pact. Japan agrees on the condition that China (its ally in this scenario as described above) is also allowed in. Germany agrees (historically, the Nazis had a good relationship with China prior to Japan’s invasion).

~1938-39 - Germany and Italy begin acting aggressively in Europe. The other major powers’ (America/Britain/France/Netherlands) reaction is appeasement.

Everything from this point on is a massive divergence from real life events

Japan and China do not care as they are busy conducting their own buildups in Asia. China seeks to seize all European possessions in its territory (i.e. Hong Kong, Macau, etc.). Japan seeks to depose all Asian European Colonies outside of China.

Around this time, some equivalent of the “Battles of Khalkhin Gol” occur, with the USSR still winning due to superior technology to the Chinese/Japanese. Like IRL, this curbs Japanese/Chinese enthusiasm for fighting against the USSR later.

~Late 1939 - Germany invades Poland, starting WW2. Japan and China declare war on Britain and France in response to their declaration of war on Germany. Battles erupt in China, SEA and the DEI over the European colonies. The Netherlands enter the war early on the Allied side as Japan attacks the DEI. America is spared during the initial attack, but swiftly enacts a trade embargo on Japan and begins running pro-Allied intelligence operations out of the Philippines. This eliminates what little goodwill existed between Japan and America. Peace negotiations are privately carried out, but America’s demand that Japan and China unilaterally withdraw and restore the existing colonial borders is seen by Japan as unreasonable.

The China/Japan team make short work of the unprepared Europeans, similar to what happened IRL. However, as the North African campaign had barely begun at this point, and the “Phony War” was still in effect in Europe, the Western Allies are able to funnel somewhat competent expeditionary forces to the Pacific and station garrisons in India and Australia.

Within the first few weeks of the conflict, Japan is able to seize French Indochina and all of the Dutch East Indies, invade most of Burma (propping up an independent government whose citizens rally to the Japanese cause of liberation) and coerce Thailand (“Siam”) into joining the war on the Japanese/Chinese side. In the conquered areas, Japan quickly establishes independent countries based on Nationalities. This process proves time-consuming and does not quickly yield results, but it results in almost no foreign opposition to Japanese military occupation, and a steady stream of volunteer fighters to pad out the ranks of the Japanese Army.

China, to its credit, kicks the Europeans out of China effortlessly, as they have no way of supplying the area. This has the amusing effect of bringing Portugal into the war on the Allies’ side, despite the country being ruled by a pro-fascist government (Estado Novo). Portugal’s role in the war is minimal, as they were a minor power by this point historically. After seizing their border territories they send reinforcements into Southeast Asia to support Japan, although Chinese enthusiasm for the war at this point is low.

~1940 - France and the Netherlands are invaded by Germany. This eliminates any pockets of formal French/Dutch resistance in the Pacific, although existing troops in the area fall under the command of the British in the form of “Free” military divisions (similar to the Free French, Polish Government in Exile, etc.)

Japan’s war in Southeast Asia and the Pacific stalls out, as British-Indian loyalist forces establish a defensive line in western Burma/eastern India (modern-day Bangladesh) and ANZAC forces establish a defensive position in New Guinea. In both areas, Japan is faring better than they did historically due to their early attack combined with the promises of independence spurring on significant anti-western resistance.

However, at this point, America begins establishing Lend-Lease aid to Britain and its Dominions (Canada, Australia, etc.) in all theaters, including the Pacific. This proves to be the last straw for Japan, who launch attacks on both the Philippines and Hawaii in late-1940. America, however, was prepared for the attacks, and is able to evacuate most of their forces from the Philippines successfully. The islands still fall under Japanese rule, but the local population resists Japan’s attempts at imposing their version of a “democratic government” on a people who basically already had one.

As happened historically, Germany and Italy declare war on America in response to Japan’s attacks. America enters WW2 1 year early, although this does not amount to much at the moment.

NOTE: Due to the different nature of Japan’s government here, nothing resembling the “Imperial Rule Assistance Association” (Japan’s WW2 dictatorship) takes hold of the country during this scenario. Japan remains insistent that Japan, rather than the west, is fighting on the behalf of freedom/democracy/human rights/etc.

~1941 - Nazi Germany and its minor Axis Allies invade the Soviet Union. Japan and China are encouraged to participate, but refuse on the grounds that their forces are already tied down fighting the Allies in the Pacific.

Japan’s attempts at sowing discontent in Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii fail completely, as the local populations are too assimilated into their native cultures to rebel against their leadership. Similar attempts vis a vis India are working to an extent, but only with radical Hindu-Nationalist elements of the population (historically, the Muslim Indians actively supported the war effort, and India was already under a form of limited self-rule from the 1930s-onwards). Through careful mediation with the likes of Gandhi and other Indian leaders, Britain is able to retain a feeble hold on the subcontinent.

~1942-45 - WW2 plays out mostly the same from here, with some significant caveats:

Japan consistently and constantly has the upper hand in the fighting in Southeast Asia/India, as it is able to concentrate the bulk of both its army and the Chinese army in the region. However, the geography of the Indian subcontinent and the logistical challenges faced by Japan as the naval war turns against it from 1942-onwards results in the British Raj barely being able to maintain control until the end of the war.

China signs a separate peace with the Allies in ~1943 (around the time Italy loses and the USSR wins at Kursk, when it’s clear that the Axis are going to lose) whereby it withdraws support from fighting in SEA/India in exchange for being allowed to keep all the former European colonies in China. This enrages the Japanese, but the Chinese still offer material support.

Japan either surrenders the war in ~1944 and agrees to give up its colonies (Korea/Taiwan/the former German Pacific Islands) in exchange for an American guarantee that its will help force the remaining Europeans to dismantle their Pacific colonies in a peaceful manner, or fights on to the bitter Atomic end in 1945.

After the defeat of Germany, the USSR attempts an invasion of China. How well this would go is unclear, and could either result in the toppling of the ROC (and the establishment of the PRC) as happened IRL or could spiral out of control into the first conflict of the Cold War (similar to the Korean War).

And that’s about it. I don’t think Japan can get away with attacking the European colonizers in the Pacific without America getting dragged into the conflict one way or another. Japan was too paranoid (even in this highly contrived and unlikely scenario I couldn’t see a way to make them not attack) and USA under Roosevelt’s administration was too keen on propping up the British for such a thing to have been possible.

I guess alternatively you could have a hyper-isolationist USA that immediately gives independence to the Philippines and refuses to offer any help to the Allies, but that just turns into “Generic Axis Wins WW2 Scenario #387”, so I didn’t go down that road.

Post-WW2 I imagine Japan gets off way easier than they did IRL due to a lack of War Crimes, a lack of a Military Dictatorship, and the revelation that this Japan really did fight the war for the explicit purpose of dismantling the colonies. In modern times leftists would champion Japan as progressive heroes on the front lines of race relations or something. IDK.
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TGC (German) vs. Doman (Allies) Original Europe

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Round: 3 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria Combat - Germans Battle in Algeria Germans attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry Americans defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Algeria Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Algeria Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Algeria Germans win, taking Algeria from Americans with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 32 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R. 5 armour moved from Hungary to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Hungary to Poland 5 armour moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 submarine moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to White Sea Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 bomber moved from Crete to Germany 3 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 fighter moved from Norway to Poland 1 fighter moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Norway to Germany Place Units - Germans 9 armour placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 42 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.00 Germans regular : -0.83
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L24 OOB surfer (X) vs AndrewAAGamer (L+60) #1

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Ragnell804 (Germany) vs TGC (Allies) Game 13

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Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from France to Eastern France Americans take Eastern France from Germans 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Vichy France Americans take Vichy France from Germans Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco 1 submarine moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from France to Leningrad 1 bomber moved from France to United Kingdom 1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone 2 transports moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in United States 1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs
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L24 PtV 666 (alliex) vs Nikola1975 (axis +11)

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Politics - Americans Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 2 fighters, 4 infantry, 2 marines, 2 submarines and 3 transports moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 marines moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 aaGun moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 55 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland 1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 destroyer and 3 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 36 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4 Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 56 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 5 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Honan 4 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 5 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan Combat - Chinese Battle in Honan Chinese attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Honan, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Honan, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Honan Chinese win, taking Honan from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Szechwan Chinese attack with 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Szechwan Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Kweichow Chinese attack with 4 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Yunnan 1 infantry placed in Inner Mongolia 1 infantry placed in Tsinghai 1 infantry placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 unit repaired. 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria 1 armour moved from Egypt to Iraq 2 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to 74 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 74 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Iraq 8 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma 2 fighters moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 marine moved from Italian Somaliland to 78 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 78 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 82 Sea Zone to Iraq 2 cruisers moved from 83 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Alexandria 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 fighter moved from 83 Sea Zone to Iraq 1 tactical_bomber moved from 83 Sea Zone to Iraq Combat - British Battle in Iraq British attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Iraq, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers in Iraq, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry Battle in 94 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber Germans defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport; Italians defend with 2 transports 1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged 2 transports owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 94 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Italians: 2 transports Casualties for Germans: 1 transport Battle in Burma British attack with 2 fighters and 8 infantry Japanese defend with 2 artilleries British roll dice for 2 fighters and 8 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 1/10 hits, 2.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries in Burma, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Burma British roll dice for 2 fighters and 8 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 4/10 hits, 2.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Burma, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Burma British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 2 fighters and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 2 artilleries Battle in Alexandria British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria British win, taking Alexandria from Italians with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 83 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to 78 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 78 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Baluchistan 3 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 82 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Baluchistan 2 fighters moved from Burma to Eastern India 2 aaGuns moved from Yunnan to Burma 1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State 1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Egypt 1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to British Guiana 2 fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Quebec to Eastern United States 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 transports moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone Place Units - British 1 carrier placed in 109 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Egypt British undo move 2. 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Egypt 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 7 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 40 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,5,4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 132 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5 UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 7 infantry
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.67 Italians regular : 0.33 Japanese regular : -0.67 Neutral_Axis regular : -1.00 British regular : -0.67
Territory Summary for Americans, British, Chinese and UK_Pacific :
Siam : 1 flag Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour Davao : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Midway : 1 airfield Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Central United States : 1 factory_major Wake Island : 1 airfield Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Kweichow : 4 infantry Tsinghai : 1 infantry Honan : 4 infantry Inner Mongolia : 1 infantry Yunnan : 1 infantry Szechwan : 5 infantry Iceland : 1 airfield Alexandria : 1 artillery Scotland : 1 airfield Quebec : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry United Kingdom : 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 6 fighters, 1 harbour, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Egypt : 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Shan State : 1 infantry Eastern India : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 8 infantry Burma : 2 aaGuns and 8 infantry Ethiopia : 1 flag Italian Somaliland : 1 flag Queensland : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 infantry, 2 marines and 1 tactical_bomber French Indo China : 1 flag, 1 infantry Southern Persia : 1 flag 82 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports Iraq : 1 flag, 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 marine 104 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 transports British Guiana : 1 bomber 109 Sea Zone : 1 carrier 27 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 1 destroyer Baluchistan : 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber 55 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 transports
Production/PUs Summary :
Germans : 48 / 62 Russians : 41 / 50 Japanese : 50 / 62 Americans : 51 / 76 Chinese : 11 / 11 British : 33 / 33 UK_Pacific : 11 / 10 Italians : 15 / 32 ANZAC : 10 / 23 French : 1 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 4 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 3 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0
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Invitational Classic 2nd edition

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Hi all, just confirming that if/when this starts up again I’d be down to give it a try. I’m not the greatest/most studied at Classic (compared to highly-skilled/veteran players, anyway) but I’m down to participate to pad out the roster for sure.
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L24 PtV Stucifer (X+11) vs 666 (L)

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@Stucifer nearly forgot to ncm that brit sub from z83 to z99. use the last file please I edited that.
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L24 BM4 Surfer (Allies+23) vs Avner (Axis)

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@Avner Ok. More usual question: Kamikazi in SZ35. If so, how many?

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