@Stucifer said in League General Discussion Thread:
I posted this in the strategy discussion thread, I published a video going over my J2 strategy a couple days ago and a new video today discussing PTV changes from OOB.
J2 Strategy video:
https://youtu.be/0JK0TXDrYGY?si=U_sTL42aK_FfuH4jIntroduction to PTV:
https://youtu.be/YPJ_I0qxGBU?si=bYbZHALTBa0n49-e
This is great, thanks for putting this together!
Agree, this is the jumping in point for new online players, so adhering to the standard rules as much as reasonably possible to make a “fair” game will make the transition easier. Plus the tactics will translate directly to improve over the board play. I think the current bid mechanics do that well.
BM and PTV are the variants to explore rule changes, and more dramatic map/rule changes respectively.
I suspect there is a lot of game play/strategy differences that come into play for someone to win as Axis against a ~60 Allies bid.
Maybe the best way to balance is to play 2 games, flipping sides with the same bid. Of course, dice luck can also come into play, so not a perfect measure.
Have enjoyed all my games in the League. Learning lots each match, plenty of room for growth as well! Thx for the games @simon33
Sorry to hear, condolences to you and your family. You were the first person to play a game with me on these forums. We’ll miss having you around.
Great hype posts! Happy to be in the playoffs amongst all these legends. Having been smashed numerous times, and also being from the same state as General Disarray, I will not be surprised if he takes at least 1 of these championships!
A bid is used to help balance the game to more “even” odds of either side winning. In my opinion, 1941 favors the Axis, so to play Allies, you could bid for it. Say one person starts the bid at 15 IPC, and another says they would play Allies for 13, etc. Whoever bids lowest, is the winner of the bid and plays the Allies in this case.
They then get to use their bid as additional units they can place on the board at setup. Usually the bid requires the country to already have units in the space. You can search these boards for more discussion/rules concerning bids.
I should clarify, new to League, but fairly experienced playing A&A, and G40 on Triple A. Hope to be a competitive player. :)
Nope, that’s the one. Dawg was a 75% favorite to win that battle. With the complete blank on the first round, things really started poorly. He only hits 2 in the 2nd round. What really hurts is that 3rd round, where Germany hits 5/6, to take out Russia’s entire air force. Germany wins that one, losing only 3 mechs. Russia scores only 3 hits the entire 3 rounds, despite having 5 @3 and 1 @4 for much of that battle.
Yeah, the bomber run on US1 really surprised me. I thought there was a problem in the game file, as UK only had to deal with 2 subs, until I went back and looked at the finer details!
Dawg had some bad luck with AA fire. I’m in a current game, and think I’ve been subjected to ~15 bombing runs against me, and 0 AA hits!
Yeah, I thought it would be a fun thing to have folks submit their worst “getting diced” moment, and we have a vote or sthg to see who wins. At least it would soften the blow, knowing you have a good submission for the year.
For League play, could develop some kind of rating system, where a bid does not mean the same thing depending on the player level.
For example, if the players are equally rated, the bid is as given straight up. If there is a tier difference between players, it becomes the bid + say 5 ipc * (tier level differential). This could scale down or up the bid, depending if the higher or lower tier player is playing Allies respectively.
Actually, maybe too complicated to scale up and down, it just needs to go one way. If a strong Tier M axis player is up against a Tier 1, and thinks the fair bid to play Allies is 60, the Tier M would have to be willing to go to an Allies bid of 50, knowing the rating will be adding 10 to the lower Tier 1. This is assuming we think 5 * level differential is the right number.
Could help the strong Axis players get a little bit of variety. :)
@simon33 said in Booper (Allies+21) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM Game II:
The UK tank which got on the transport in SZ91 has to attack if it does so during combat movement.
Ah, OK, wasn’t aware of that. I’ll edit so I would not have picked up the tank then. Thx
Ack, I can just play it out - let’s see what happens. Let’s keep it going.
@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:
Wait, BombsAway is back in 2023 after last game in league before was November 10, 2015?! That’s newsworthy
I’m doing some tests on BombsAway and Booper who are new to BM this year and played 5 or 6 games to see if the sensitivity is enough to apparently give them a fair shot at a fair seed in the playoffs.
Unfortunately I’m not going to be able to participate in playoffs this year. Been busier than anticipated, and have not been able to play much this latter part of the year.
The common “non-default” bid I see is an Anzac infantry in New Guinea, as there is no prior unit there, but it allows Anzac to grab one of their objectives without use of a transport.
Not sure how folks feel about this one, has anyone ever denied this bid? I’ve never used it nor had it used on me, but my gut reaction would be to disallow it… curious how accepted this bid is in the community.
I made an edit not to place in Novgorod and to move guys out in Non-Com to Belarus.
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
1 fighter moved from Russia to Bessarabia
1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bessarabia
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
Combat - Russians
Battle in Bessarabia
Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
Russians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in Eastern Poland
Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated
Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Rostov
2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
1 armour moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
1 armour moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
Place Units - Russians
3 infantry placed in Novgorod
3 infantry placed in Ukraine
6 infantry placed in Russia
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 37 PUs
Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.67
Russians regular : -2.67
Nice - yes having never been sealioned, I didn’t even have that on my mind. I guess I need to be more conservative on British expansion. :)
Sorry for the delay, is it OK if I take my move over the weekend? Been too busy the last few days.
Sorry, one more edit set if you’ll allow it. If you feel it’s too late, please reverse it out.