Posts made by BigBlocky

I think he is smoking something. From what I know, third edition refers to the rules for the CD version of the game.

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If it was about oil then why not invade Kuwait or Saudia Arabia? Should the allies have NOT protected the oil fields to PROVE it’s not about oil? Had they NOT protected the oil fields and they were sabotaged then they get blamed for inaction.

It must be nice to use action against the US and inaction against the US vis-a-vis the protection of the oil fields. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. In computer science this is known as a tautology. In logic optimisation techniques (Karnaugh maps) tautologies are eliminated as being irrelevant, much like your line of thinking F_alk! Ah F_alk, master of the spurious argument. I thought we had made some progess on this after reading your other posts, but alas you have regressed!

You are quite correct however in regards to Germany not having their own WMD, do they still have US WMD on German soil? If so, it must be nice to enjoy their protection and yet rail against the US for having them. Balarus and Ukraine as well have returned their share of nukes to Russia, though I don’t trust the regime in the Ukraine at all.

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F_alk, an impressive survey of religion in Europe I must say. I’m not so sure I agree with you dezrtfish. Historically, religious institutes don’t allow people to showcase morality, they mold peoples morality. They indoctrinate, preach, brainwash, mold, form, impose, shape and direct attitudes.

Religion when properly used can help to overcome immoral tendencies, so can moral suasion of peers. Christianity at it’s foundation has the 10 commandments, you can’t get more basic and fundemantal then that. Yet the institution of christianity has commited genocide. The poster boy for christians is Jesus who was very religiously tolerent, and yet the crusades occured.

Christianity is probably one of the poorest examples of what good can come out of religion, though in recent times it has improved, Jerry Fallwell excluded.

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So F_alk, you and I both agree on the rule intrepretation yet, nobody else in the world does. Now what?

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I can remember being Japan, having all 20 INF, 10 ARM, 10 FTR, 6 BMR built and going into battle with enough money to completely replace the land units and all FTRs.

We also played unlimited builds on an IC, oh the strategies of England buying and IC on gibralter! Pre-Cambrian indeed!

I think blind faith in religion allows you to do rather immoral acts such as killing in the name of god. The crusades come to mind. If they are heathen it’s not as bad to kill them or even allowable perhaps.

Most of the killing and hatred in the middle east is religious based as to is the conflict between muslims and hindus. In Africa there is strife between animist, muslims and christians.

If there was no religion half of the reasons for waging war would be gone. The English civil war was over religion, many of the wars in europe in prior centuries were religious based.

Well, if you can load AND unload during non-combat then there is NO reason to load during the combat phase. However, if they force you to load during combat if you want to unload during non-combat because you can’t do both at this phase then it does alter the game. The German sub just screwed the brits out of an entire round of unloading.

This seems to make sense. If you start out during combat movement then perhaps the logic is that you have time to move 2, load and unload. Wheras if the transports sat around for awhile to determine the results of the battle then they might not have time to move 2, load and unload. They would have time to move and unload or move and load.

Moreover, if there was no movement then you can bridge during non-combat, ie, load and unload. This again makes sense. If there is no movement to be done, there is more time to load and unload, presumably you are just crossing a short distance. No wonder they make a big to-do about bridging. It is a big deal if you can’t move and load then unload!

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Yeah, that’s right. Only the eastern side of Malaya has the port so only the sea zone on that side would have that movement advanatage port to port.

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I agree, that is a legal move for combat. Here is an example of combat and non-combat that some won’t agree with, and I I’m not sure I do.

**Scenario:
The British have move their fleet 2 spaces south of the waters around england to drop off units in French West Africa. The germans have a sub in the waters off Italy. The Germans put their sub between the British Fleet and England. The Brits of course want to move their fleet up 2 spaces and move the units off Britain to Finland. It is the Brits turn.

**Combat Movement
If the German SUB is not there then the brits move their transports up 2 spaces and load preparing to unload during non-combat.

However, the SUB is in the way, so do combat movement, put your airforce on the SUB and sink it.

**Non-Combat Movement
Page 21: Empty transports or transports loaded with cargo can be moved to friendly coastal territories to either load or unload

Thus the Brits could only move their transports in to load.

This to me is the best reading of the rules. I don’t like it much but….

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Why does Jesus have a holiday for his birthday and his death for what the crusaders did Yanny?

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Columbus was Italian, so how is he responsible for what the Spanish did?

Estimates of Haitis population were 8 million? The population of Spain was only about 8 million at that time. Where is your proof Yanny? Lies I say, LIES!!!

Here is somethign from : http://abe.www.ecn.purdue.edu/~agenhtml/agenmc/haiti/history.html

While Columbus was away, Spaniards started looting, raping, killing, whipping and enslaving the natives, making them turn in gold as well as food. This regime of terror continued despite Las Casas’ complaints and the return of Admiral Columbus, and led to the decimation of the local population (Caribs). Estimates suggest that somewhere between 300,000 and one million natives died of exhaustion, disease, violence or suicide between 1492 and 1550. The exhaustion of the riverbeds and mines further led the Spaniards to move West towards newer eldorados in what are today Mexico and Peru.

So, Columbus was Italian so had no control over what the Spanish did, was dead for 45 years of that period and yet was responsible for the 300,000 to 1 million, oh wait, we are using Yanny factoids, errr 6 to 8 million dead. Riiiiiiiiiight…… By the way, the killings of the natives didn’t really start in earnst until the first spanish settlement had been slaughtered by an inland tribe with the locals taking part. I believe destroying a settlement is an act of war.

This article here:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04140a.htm
goes on to say the island was in fact sparcely populated. That there were 2 factions, one headed by the admiral and the other was headed by settlers and it was the settlers doing the gold mining and slaughtering. It also mentions as well as the other articles cited that it was the Carib natives in the area who were doing most of the killing.

This article:
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/caribbean/haiti/history.htm

states that the population was only 400, 000 when Columbus ‘discovered’ the island.

This article:
http://www.internationalorphans.org/Haiti-history

states that the population was about 400, 000 when Columbus came by.

As usual, your ‘facts’ don’t stand up to scrutiny, this is getting to be a broken record. If you are really taught these lies in school then your school board should be indicted for incompetence.

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CNN is not exactly a journalistic power house, they are mass media. Just a few pet peeves with CNN. When that shite cleric who came from England was killed along with a local shite who was close to Saddam the reporter/talking head whatever was reporting about the assasination attempt, but the guy was dead so it was not an assasination attempt, it was an assasination period.

When they tested the MOAB, that 22, 000 lb bomb, Wolf Blitzer was going on and on about how it was like a small nuke bomb. Except the MOAB only has 10 tonnes of explosives and the smallest nuke bomb is about 1000 tonnes of explosive equivelant or 100 times more. The bombs used in WWII were about 2000 times more powerful than the MOAB.

I’m not saying CNN would blatently lie about a hockey score, however, they give undue credibility to people they ought not to.

RE: size of the administration being 5,000. OK, what is the ‘administation’ and who is this unknown administration person who claims it might be a bluff? By administration I mean the top 50 or so people and the 100 people or so under each of them. Too many people? Maybe, depends on who this source is and what level he is at. Is this person in the top 10 of the Bush Circle? I doubt it. I doubt this person is even a secretary of one of the top 100 in the Bush Circle. Since you don’t name this person or cite the news article I guess we must take your word for it shrugs. Does this person speak for the administration or him or herself?

What is a bluff by the way? Did this annonyomous person say they think that NK was bluffing about owning or using a nuke?

I for one would love to know who this person is.

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Yanny, Haiti only has a population of 7 million now, you believe they had 6 million people to kill?

Yes, the native Arawak Amerindians were slaughtered after it’s discovery but it was by Spanish Settlers, not by Chris Columbus’s own hands or the hands of the men he commanded.

In fact Yanny, the Arawak Amerindians were initially slaughtered by other ‘Carib nations’. The spanish only started to slaughter the Arawak’s AFTER Columbus was away.

As usual Yanny, not only do you cite no facts, but the facts you do use aren’t facts at all. What’s the motto of the sophists? Never let the facts get in the way of a poor argument, just cite lies to distract your opponent.

The top end estimates of the death was 1 million not 6 million, it occured when Columbus was away. Columbus was dead in 1506 and left that side of the globe for good in 1504 long before most of the slaughter even occured, yeah, blame the dead guy, he can’t defend himself!

You might was well blame Jesus Christ for the Crusades Yanny! :wink:

http://abe.www.ecn.purdue.edu/~agenhtml/agenmc/haiti/history.html

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ha.html

http://www.discoverhaiti.com/history00_1_1.htm

http://wilstar.net/holidays/columbus.htm

I’m sure they might have a few good ideas. Too bad they choose some rather sick symbols to use. Ya know, how can anybody take them seriously. It’s like when people say the propaganda in North Korea is comparable to the propaganda the US used in the Cold War. I mean how can anybody take somebody like that seriously?

I understand some lawyer in Belgium wants to take Tommy Franks to court and try him as a War Criminal on behalf of some Iraqi civilians who said he should have done more to protect the museums. Now, I don’t disagree that the US could have done more, and perhaps there should be some sort of an investigation. But, to use the War Crimes mechanism and the World Court for this political agenda will cause the US to shy away even more from a world court system that could be used to prosecute real war crimes and crimes against humanity. Why somebody would choose to sue Tommy Franks over say Pol Pot when he was alive or say Yassir Arafat is beyond me. But then again there are lots of French folks in Belgium so that might be reason enough. :wink:

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The very fact it came from CNN should be reason to question this ‘fact’. So, somebody in the administration (say 1 in 5, 000 people in the administration) said it might or might not be a bluff. Is this like F_alk saying something spurious? Has about as much credibility I guess.

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I think Germany should always buy 1 ARM whenever they have 2 IPC left over after buying all infantry or if you really think you are attacking big time next round then perhaps buy more than 1 ARM.

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The odds are NOT equal between the two groups for scoring a hit. Two destroyers are 50% more powerfull then 1 battleship. Therefore round #2 is much less likely to occur for the destoyer example as they have already won.

As for battles where you only expect to take 1 naval casualty. Yes, there a battleship has an advantage I will admit. Stick to battles like that and you will win a few battles and lose the war.

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The US starts out with an IC there so yes, all original factories provide for unlimited production.

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I don’t think there is any doubt that during combat you can load, move, move and unload or move, move, load and unload.

On page 26 it shows a non-combat movement whereby they show a japanese transport loading and moving then unloading. This seems to contradict the language of load and move or move and load during non-combat.

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I don’t think you can blame columbus for all the crimes that occured in the Americas for the next 500 years from the point of discovery. If you do then perhaps you should also celebrate all the good things that all the people accomplished that followed him. Dispite what some might think, if it hadn’t been for North America, Nazis would rule Europe.

Now some will say, WWII might not have happened had it not been for Columbus. Those same people want their cake and want to eat it too. So what, had columbus not discovered America nobody would have and none of the bad things would have occured?

Who is next? The Pope that evil doer! Why, he is against birth control, yeah, more starving babies!!! Oh, a 9 year old girl is raped by her uncle? Make her have the kid, NO to abortion! I bet the Pope and Catholics by not promoting birth control have created more death by starvation then were aztecs killed by columbus’s party directly.

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