OK , It is now clear to me , Thanks everyone for taking your time to explain this to me 👍🏼
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RE: Industrial Complex Question ??
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RE: Industrial Complex Question ??
@P@nther:
IMHO this is the part that you have misinterpreted from the rules:
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By the rules I see , If built by a ally in enemy territory,The complex goes to the ally who (built it)originaly owned it , but the IPC for the territory goes to the ally that “captured” it.
…For answering the question who gets the money and who can use the factory, it is irrelevant who actually has built the factory.
Page 14 " industrial complexes you own can not be used by any other members of your alliance . Even if you liberate (capture a territory once owned by a ally) a territory with a industrial complex on it, you CANNOT use the complex but your ally (who is once again owner of the liberated territory) can use it on his or her next turn. "
I don’t see a exception to this rule i.e. … ( exception , if your ally built the factory in enemy territory you CAN … )
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RE: Industrial Complex Question ??
If your ally builds a factory in an enemy territory and you liberate it, the factory is yours for builds.
Thank you , This is exactly what what I was asking. How did you come to this conclusion? Is this rule written somewhere ?
Page 14 " industrial complexes you own can not be used by any other members of your alliance . Even if you liberate (capture a territory once owned by a ally) a territory with a industrial complex on it, you CANNOT use the complex but your ally (who is once again owner of the liberated territory) can use it on his or her next turn. "
That’s the only reference I can find.
I understand the " captured capital " exception. I’m also not asking about a liberated complex on a original territory.
By the rules I see , If built by a ally in enemy territory,The complex goes to the ally who (built it)originaly owned it , but the IPC for the territory goes to the ally that “captured” it.
Or is the key here “liberated” and “captured” meaning liberated in the above rule is referencing original ally territory , While the " Who Owns It " clarification uses the term captured in explaining the IPC rule in enemy territory.
Again , Just want to play it correctly ,
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RE: Industrial Complex Question ??
@Imperious:
If you liberate a factory originally controlled by an ally, the IPC and the builds go back to that player. Only if you capture an enemy factory, you get the IPC and ability to build.
Even if the liberated factory originally controlled by your ally was built in enemy territory ? Maybe I’m missing something here? You can place a complex in a territory that was originally enemy territory as long as you control it at the start of your turn , correct ? The complex can NOT be used by a liberating ally ( with exception to the loss capital rule ) Rules clarification says " your ally captures an enemy territory and the territory is recaptured by the enemy. If you recapture the territory, YOU control the territory, NOT your ally who first captured it " It goes on to say YOU collect the IPC . I would think by what’s written in the rules , The liberator of the factory claims the land ( which was originally enemy territory ) and IPC but factory production return to the ally ?
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Industrial Complex Question ??
Classic Axis and Allies Industrial Complex , Question ?
2nd edition Game Play Manuel ,
Pg 13 "newly purchased industrial complexes can be placed only in territories you have owned since the beginning of your TURN "
Pg 14 " Even if you liberate ( capture a territory once owned by a ally ) a territory with a Industrial complex on it , you CAN NOT use the complex but your ally ( who is once again the owner of the liberated territory ) CAN  … "
Lastly found on the last page of the separate " Rules Clarifications " Â manual
" your ally captures an enemy territory and the territory is recaptured by the enemy. If you recapture the territory, YOU control the territory, NOT your ally who first captured it "
So in the above scenario , If your ally built a Industrial Complex after capturing the enemy territory ( on the following turn as rules allow ) , then , The territory is recaptured by the enemy , You then capture it. YOU control the territory , get the IPC’s , but your ally has the complex ?? Or , A recaptured territory with a industrial complex goes back to the ally who built the complex ??
Rules say , you liberated the territory and your ally is once again the owner. Also says , You capture it , YOU own it .
Thanks !