Best general

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I am in the belief that monty’s perceived lack of aggression stems from britain’s dire manpower shortage by the end of the war. Market-Garden was an example of this desire to end the war with minimal loss in life. Even if the british people had a blood and guts general like Patton, they would not favor him because this attitude would be perceived as carelessness with the live of soldiers.

Hey Patton-

I don’t recall Patton kicking the crap out
of Rommel. However, Patton did read Rommel’s book on
Tank warfare. You are going against the grain
on this one.

What are you talking about? Patton defeated Rommel’s 10th Panzer at El Guettar (BTW: Patton is my favorite General). Patton was the most dangerous General on all fronts, N. Africa, Sicily, Northern France, and finally Germany. Quite possibly Patton could’ve ended the war by Sept. 1944 if not for arch rival Monty.

I thin MacArthur was the best general also.

And As far as getting thrown out of Koriea, Truman thought he was a rival for president, So thats why.

I hate to burst your bubble Moses, but Patton arived in Africa and took over command on the 4th of March 1943, and Rommel was relieved and returned to Germany on the 5th of March 1943. The big stories of Patton defeating Rommel are a propaganda myth. Patton along with the rest of the allied army in Africa faced Colonel-General von Arnim. Not familiar with him? History doesn’t remember loosers.

I agree the Patton was a great General, one of histories best, however he never realy went head to head with Rommel.

Well of course I knew that Rommel wasn’t present during Patton’s victory. However it is undoubtably true that Rommel planned the battle. If you beat Rommel’s plans, didn’t you defeat Rommel? Plus, Patton’s greatest victory wasn’t even against Rommel. Patton was the person who saved the Allies’ hide in WWII at BotB.

[ This Message was edited by: TG Moses VI on 2002-02-21 19:19 ]

As I have stated before lets not debate over

an issue like this. Why not see what Patton

thought about Rommel?

PATTON, SAID " ROMMEL IS THE MOST MAGNIFICENT

SON OF A BITCH I HAVE EVER SEEN IN ALL MY

LIVES" Patton thought he lived many lives

including being in battles in the Civil War

and wars back during the Greek period.

You see if Patton himself believes this

and so do most experts/historians why

even debate it? However, Patton was an

awesome leader so I respect your passion

for him.

Don’t worry, I never said Rommel anything that would try to discredit or tarnish his reputation. (BTW in the present era many generals are not “present” at the actual battles simply because the size of armies has evolved from Ceaser’s 5,000 man legions to Patton’s 3rd Army numbering almost 500,000). Rommel was one of the best generals the Germans had during WWII and for any other time. His actions in North Africa and the stubborn defense of Normandy was nothing short of brillant due to the superior forces of his opponent.

Umm…. Rommel was a Field Marshall.

Marshal

In America there is no rank of Field Marshal since it is a European term for an Armny Officer. I’m pretty sure if there was, Patton would’ve attained such a position.

While Italy was not the soft underbelly of Europe (as Curchill had said) and one of the bitterest campaigns fought in WWII, I think that casulties would’ve be much lighter than if the Allies had Normandy early. Case in point the Raid on Dieppe in August 19, 1942 was certainly a disaster for the Allies.

I always liked Aldolf Galland. Youngest Inspector of Fighters General in history. What a sweetheart ace.

Kesslring. he had his eyes on the prize (malta) and kept us running till the end.

rommel pulled too many blunders IMO. and monty sux as much as the boston red sox.

What about Erich von Manstein?? He was very good at warfare!!!

Actually it was Kesselring that pulled many blunders too. Though many will remember him for the staunch defense of Italy against the Allies, he was marred by two critical incidents.

During the Battle of Britian, he was instrumental in Hermann Goring’s decision to change Luftwaffe tactics from direct pressure on RAF Fighter Command to bombing Britain’s cities. This led to the ultimate loss of the Battle of Britain.

The second was when Resistance members detonated a bomb in Rome killing 32 German soldiers. In retaliation, Hitler demanded that all able-bodied men in Italian capital be transported to prison camps. Kesselring instead had 335 citizens of Rome rounded up and shot at nearby Grotto Via Ardeantina. Kesselring worse then Hitler?