German Goliath Bombs?

I love the rules and state for the Vals but 10 points is WAY steep if you ask me. I’d rather invest that into MG42 teams, commanders like the Oberleutnant or Haupsturmfuhrer that help out my front line men. Paratroopers are great if you can deploy them in multiple teams.

My most recent example is I played Japan VS the US. I don’t have that many Japenese men and I HATE PLAYING JAPAN. So I thought it would be a short war.

Then I came up with the idea to utilize snipers and foot soldiers and 2 mortars with LT’s. I put the rest of my points into 6 paratroopers.

Sure enough, at turn 6 we were being decimated and the US held the town adjacent to the objective.

“What’s taking you so long to move?” my opponent griped.

Well, I deployed the para’s in 3 groups (2 each). One on each side of the town, having my remaining infantry rush him. This turned his battle into a 3 front war and In one turn, all his commanders, his quad 50 and other elite troops were gone except one. His last soldier made a run for the objective and was killed by a sniper that survived the town rush.

My point is this: My opponent said “Your goal was to decieve me and that, you did. I thought your army looked a little light.”

So if your playing a huge point battle and can afford to divide up your Airborn units into at least 2 groups, you can seriously cause chaos in your opponents movements and even divide his attention in critical areas where he needs to concentrate.

I got it

Commander Pnzr 45 pnts
Vet Tiger          65 pnts
Ammo Depot      10 pnts
Mauser              3 pnts
Fortress Defendr  2 pnts

Total 125

While attacking a disrupted unit w/Vet Tiger, all dice would count, “one’s” get reroled and you have another approx 85% success of hitting.  All total it’s over 90% success ratio.  Almost always a hit and Vet Tiger throws alot of dice.

Replace Vet Tiger with 3X elite pnzr and it’s another killer army.  You can add 11 pnts more of infantry… another 3X mauser + another Fortress Defendr

@dezrtfish:

I have to agree a gang of elite Pzr IVs is pretty hard hitting

Yes of course.  But a Panhard in only 10 pts.  10 strike-n-fade, speed 4, high gear Panhards VS 5 speed 3 EPIVD’s would probably result in a Panhard victory.

I may have been slightly exagerating, but only slightly…

If it’s “anything goes” then there’s far too many options. If you want to make balanced armies than try to have it so each army has an answer to the other; ie if one side has an aircraft, the other has AA (either an AA Gun or aircraft). Don’t have a King Tiger on one side and no AT on the other, etc etc.

@cleveland:

Does a face up disrupted counter effect the Goliath’s special ability?

The two dice rolled as part of Remove Control are unaffected by disruption.
However, if they succeed, then the subsequent attack will get the -1 from the disrupted counter.

idk the 88 works awsome if you surrond them with good infantry and meduim tanks "panzer IV’s

From Avalon Hill FAQ

Wehrmacht Expert Sniper says,
“Crack Shot — This unit gets +1 on each attack die.
Superior Camouflage — While this unit has cover, enemy units can’t attack this unit at medium or long range.
Headshot — Once per game, instead of attacking a Vehicle, you may roll six attack dice. If you roll three or more successes, put a face-up Disrupted counter on that Vehicle. This counter isn’t removed at the beginning of the next casualty phase.”

Q: Does the Crack Shot ability apply to Headshot?
A: Yes. The Crack Shot ability modifies attack dice, so the Wehrmacht Expert Sniper rolls successes on a 3 or higher.

Q: Does “have cover” mean that the Sniper has to succeed at a cover roll to get the Superior Camouflage ability?
A: No. A unit “has cover” just by being in hex filled with defensive terrain. This means that a Sniper with Superior Camouflage can’t be attacked directly at medium or long range while it’s in a forest, hill, marsh, or town hex.

So to help give Germany a slight extra advantage, we play as a house rule that the vehicles must setup on the back hexes. It really helps balance the game.

Apparently in the original play tested versions of the game all units started on the back hexes but the game took to long. So instead of having infantry setup 5 in and the vehicles on the back. They did everything in the first 5 hexes.