@Bunnies:
@Francis:
Has anyone ever built a factory in the Ukraine on Germany Turn 1? The problem with the Eastern front has always been logistics. Why not a factory right next to the caucus? Please let me know what you think. I know this takes a lot of much needed troops away, but is it worth it?
You get all kindsa weird strats, and a lot of German strats get cooked up. You oughta join the Caspian Sub Yahoo group. Building a factory in the Ukraine is what I think they refer to as the Donut shop. Or the Hot Dog Stand. Or something like that.
I am of the opinion that you never want to build an industrial complex with Germany, barring extremely unusual circumstances. If you build an industrial complex, that’s 15 IPC that you didn’t spend on infantry or tanks, and you probably want an AA gun there, which takes time to move up. You then have an additional point that you need to defend.
If the Allies are landing in Western Europe or containing Germany in some other fashion, then you need units in the west anyways, in which case you’ll want tanks at Eastern Europe to defend Eastern Europe and threaten any Allied landing in Western Europe. 15 IPC is three less tanks you can use.
If the Allies aren’t landing at Western Europe or messing with Germany (i.e. killing Japan), then you have to crack Caucasus before Japan feels the pain, probably using S. Europe’s fleet starting G3-4 to support. Once you crack the Caucasus, you have a 4 unit production center on Moscow’s doorstep. So why not build an industrial complex then? Because even then, you have a S. Europe battleship and transport; 16 IPC buys two more S. Europe transports that can drop right into any number of territories (Ukraine, Caucasus, Anglo-Egypt, Trans-Jordan), giving the Germans far more flexibility, and two fodder transports can help against light Allied air attacks on the Med fleet.
So what happens if the Allies didn’t land at Western Europe or land troops at Norway/Karelia, and built a big fat load of fighters, which can blow up the Med fleet? Well, then, just build a hell of a lot of tanks with Germany, and bust Moscow in the face; Moscow can put up a spirited defense, but with Japs in the East and Germans from the west, you start seeing Axis tanks traded for Allied fighters, which just isn’t a good deal for the Allies.
agreed if Germany wants control of the channel is the only circumstance i can think of them building an IC. but why they would do that is good question. or if they sneak into Brazil but that rarely happens. ( when i say rarely I mean almost never) even if you owned egypt for good you wouldn’t want it there. you could just use your med fleet and build one more trn if it is really necessary.
