I recently obtained a 2nd hand Playmobil Roman Arena. Unfortunately the lions were missing…
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UN Environmental Summit in Johannesburg S Africa
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Exactly SUD, the people of Africa don’t need to work in Textile Sweatshops for their economy to recover. They should become a supplier of Raw Materials until they build up their industry. It benefits both them and us. We can help them out by teaching them to apply more modern farming and mining techniques. Also by providing Political Stability (a war every 5 years never helps).
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No slights intended. Just that the factors of production should be cheap (cheaper?) in Africa, but they aren’t because we subsidize at home. California produces a staggering amount of fruit and vegetables and they are very good at it. Mexico does not. But there’s no free market reason why this is so in todays world. Instead, it’s actually cheaper to import the Mexican workers and retain the status quo. Remove all the trade barriers & subsidies (eventually) in Ag products and part of California’s production will relocate a few 100 miles south to Mexico.
I like my Mexican farm works just to stay the where they are in California.
When you start exporting raw materials - it’s often that you’re on the losing side of it.
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@TG:
No slights intended. Just that the factors of production should be cheap (cheaper?) in Africa, but they aren’t because we subsidize at home. California produces a staggering amount of fruit and vegetables and they are very good at it. Mexico does not. But there’s no free market reason why this is so in todays world. Instead, it’s actually cheaper to import the Mexican workers and retain the status quo. Remove all the trade barriers & subsidies (eventually) in Ag products and part of California’s production will relocate a few 100 miles south to Mexico.
I like my Mexican farm works just to stay the where they are in California.
When you start exporting raw materials - it’s often that you’re on the losing side of it.
a collective “Ugghhhh” from Canada . . . .
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Ya, if Canada had its own fish processing plant, it could make much more in exporting fish than it currently does.
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a collective “Ugghhhh” from Canada . . . .
Ya, if Canada had its own fish processing plant, it could make much more in exporting fish than it currently does.
It’s not bad. As long as the raw materials is replenishable, than the exporting of such can be quite profitable. However, even some of Canada’s natural resources are often exploited (ex. fish and lumber industry).
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What we really need to offer to Africa are industrialists. Teach them how to make their crops last better, grow bigger, and more often. Then teach them how to make their crops into something more useful and sell it to the world.
Yippie,
I think those are called Agriculturalists. :P - Xi“Communism is a proposition to structure the world more
reasonably, a proposition for changing the world. As such,
we have to analyze it and, if we deem it reasonable, act upon it.”- Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Swiss essayist.
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c_c_,
Donating grain doesn’t mean it gets to the starving masses. It was most likely sold to purchase military hardware or given to the needy supporters of the current regimes.And as I mentioned earlier in this string, the US(and probably EURO) environmentlists argue that modern technology will pollute and not allow a natural environment. We used to call it desert! :roll:
“Communism to me is one-third practice and
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Wasn’t there something on the news about 12-15 migrant workers dying in a van crash in MAINE? :-? You let some get away,T_6!
c_c_, isn’t Canada the biggest supplier of lumber to the US? :P
My bro’ was tellin’ me a lotta MJ enthusiasts are movin’ up to around Vancouver, B.C. since you’ve got lax drug laws compared to the US.
Izzat so?How about Colin Powell’s idea of open borders with Canada and Mexico to set an example for the rest of the world? Maybe we could call it the DIPS (Disassociated Immigrants Protective States) :wink: - Xi
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@Xi:
Wasn’t there something on the news about 12-15 migrant workers dying in a van crash in MAINE? :-? You let some get away,T_6!
c_c_, isn’t Canada the biggest supplier of lumber to the US? :P
My bro’ was tellin’ me a lotta MJ enthusiasts are movin’ up to around Vancouver, B.C. since you’ve got lax drug laws compared to the US.
Izzat so?How about Colin Powell’s idea of open borders with Canada and Mexico to set an example for the rest of the world? Maybe we could call it the DIPS (Disassociated Immigrants Protective States) :wink: - Xi
Yes, i’m sure we are one of the biggest suppliers of just about everything to the U.S. (well, lumber anyway) which is why i "uggg"ed earlier
And yes, usually when cops stop someone in Van (and more and more across the country) with a small amount of Mary Jane they’ll typically return it to them. If it’s a sufficient quantity, then the person will likely be picked up for traffiking
Also i’m not sure the whole “open borders” thing would work. The Americans have too many guns, and the Mexicans are a little too “Americanized” :lol: -
c_c_,
Donating grain doesn’t mean it gets to the starving masses. It was most likely sold to purchase military hardware or given to the needy supporters of the current regimes.We all saw what happened in Somlia, didn’t we?
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@cystic:
Also i’m not sure the whole “open borders” thing would work. . . the Mexicans are a little too “Americanized” :lol:
By “Americanized,” do you mean ‘welfare, social services and free medical sevices seeking?’ - Xi
“The Cold War isn’t thawing; it is burning with a deadly
heat. Communism isn’t sleeping; it is, as always, plotting,
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@Xi:
@cystic:
Also i’m not sure the whole “open borders” thing would work. . . the Mexicans are a little too “Americanized” :lol:
By “Americanized,” do you mean ‘welfare, social services and free medical sevices seeking?’ - Xi
touche
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Xi takes a bow (and falls flat on his bearded face.) :D - Xi
“Those who wait for that must wait
until a shrimp learns to whistle.”
Referring to the possibility of the
Soviet Union rejecting communism.- Nikita Khrushchev, Soviet premier. speech,
9/17/1955, Moscow. New York Times (9/18/1955).
- Nikita Khrushchev, Soviet premier. speech,
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@F_k:
@X:
The US had eliminated 98% of it’s 1974 automobile emisssions by 1992.
Standing alone, this is close to lying.
It sounds like: In 1992 all the cars in the US put only 2% of the stuff into the air that they put there in 1974. That cannot be.
Please, back up your claim!What I was saying was that individual cars have been cleaned up! Our biggest vehicular polluters are trucks, school buses and metropolitan buses. We can blame the unions, politicians, transportation industry and miserly taxpayer here for that. Hmm! I think that’s just about everybody here. :o
@X:In 1970 environmentalists said we would run out of oil in 100 years(2070).
In 1995 environmentalists said we would run out of oil in 200 years(2195).
Sounds like we’ve found more oil and become more efficient in its’ use.@F_k:
Where do you get this quotes from? Esp. where did you get the 1195 quote from.
This is from the US news media of 1970 and 1995. I was there. But, of course, you won’t accept it … because … I said it.
@F_k:… the Have Nots complain, as they have not because of the haves who took it. (oversimplified, my last hope you can understand that now!)
Complaining as it will always be! But not everything was taken … much of it was traded/paid for it. - Xi
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@Anonymous:
Do you know how much species die each years ? Do you think it is normal ?
You don’t seem to care that much. I see … :o … NO PROOF!
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CO2 …
Humans have been gaining ground on trees and grass for …
let’s be conservative … 5,000 years. If something wasn’t helping the balance over 5,000 years ago it sure seems to be now. And with over 150 years of Industrial Revolution, the Earth seems to be doing very well. :)The hole in the ozone layer …
Yesterday, 9/30/2002, the news media (CBS/US) stated that the ozone hole had divided in two. They also said the hole, which had previously been measured at 9 million (that’s thousand thousand) sq. miles, was now (as two holes) measured at 6 million (that’s thousand thousand) sq. miles. Sounds like a major shift in the environment. Next we’ll have to protect the ozone layer. Wouldn’t that be a gas? Hmm! :DMethinks the envirowackos (but I am an environmentalist) are losing ground. Oh, No! They will become more extreme! I am looking forward to the laughs, but am sorry for the pain and unemployment they will cause. - Xi
I have seen far more environmentalists, liberals and Democrats litter, pollute, and deface public and private property, deny others rights of free speech and physically harm others who disagreed with them or were innocent bystanders. - Xi
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Ozone layer? We don’t need it - LA’s pollution layer provides more protection than we’ll ever need. :o
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But La needs a good load from China. - Xi
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Psssttt… that’s why we have Mexico. :)
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@Xi:
CO2 …
Humans have been gaining ground on trees and grass for …
let’s be conservative … 5,000 years. If something wasn’t helping the balance over 5,000 years ago it sure seems to be now. And with over 150 years of Industrial Revolution, the Earth seems to be doing very well. :)Gaining ground on trees…… well, trees have a lifetime of say 50-150 years. All carbon they store was in the air in that time. The change done by cutting down trees over the last millenia is slow compared to that cycle.
Ergo, the earth has had some time to adapt to that, and it seems it did. Sure, it changed the ecosystem, but slowly enough for noone to suffer.No comes the industrialization. Digging up coal and oil on a large scale: Alle the carbon that ancient, vast forests had stored. We release this huge amount of carbon in …say two trees lifetimes…
And that is way too fast for any eco-system to adapt.The hole in the ozone layer …
Yesterday, 9/30/2002, the news media (CBS/US) stated that the ozone hole had divided in two. They also said the hole, which had previously been measured at 9 million (that’s thousand thousand) sq. miles, was now (as two holes) measured at 6 million (that’s thousand thousand) sq. miles.Nice that you give only half the info. I read the same / a similar article.
The hole is much smaller this year, than the last years, true. But the explanation is that it is due to temperature changes (if i remember correctly).As well: it is extremely funny to see these lines of argument by anti-environmentalists:
(1) CO2, temperature rise: … well, what we see is inside the fluctuations, we need more time to see wether it is real or jsut a “one-year-effect”. So, we keep on going as usual until then
(2) Ozone layer: it shrinks, it shrinks, it shrinks… Well, it does so this year, but of course, that is not a “one-year-effect” but real. We can go on as we did before …See my point, and why i am highly suspicious?
Methinks the envirowackos (but I am an environmentalist) are losing ground. Oh, No! They will become more extreme! I am looking forward to the laughs, but am sorry for the pain and unemployment they will cause. - Xi
Hmmm, I am looking forward to the new technologies we will need, and the new jobs it will create in the long run.
If you feel sorry for the unemployment…… then let’s destroy all computers… that will create lots of new jobs for “math-slaves”… and after that all telephones and telegraphs and TVs and radios. That will create a lot of jobs for couriers, book- and newspaper-printers, messagers etc.
And then we destroy all cars, planes and even trains… new jobs as we need much more people doing the transports on horseback and sailing ships, and people to “grow” all the horses we will need…
I guess i made my point :)
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