Battle of the North Atlantic

Here’s pretty much the map now.

Civil War Map 2,0.png

Hey guys… I got a question for battle of owkinawa. First turn is that you go through steps B-Q, then starting from 2nd turn, if the USA wins the combat inititive do you go through steps B-Q again, where the japanese launch there kamakazi strikes? Or is that only when japan win inititive when they launch there free strikes? then you go through stages I-Q?.. Thanks

I try to be more clear.

Actually i say right the opposite.
Let’ say it like this : the american makes an amphibious landing in a beach region with japanase defender in the adjoining region so has to fight the japanese :

if american win all japanese unit are destroyed so american move up form beachead to the region if american lose all his troops are destroyed and japanese troops stay on the territory near beachead zone

In both cases there are not any units on the beachead at he end of the combat.

Is it right ?
If it is how is it possible to have units in there ?
Am i missing something in the rules?

tks

@John:

@Yavid:

@Imperious:

What we need is a master list of WOTC pieces and HBG/FMG pieces by type, then formulate stats but all separate

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33356.0

done I don’t have Anniversary and don’t know the units that came with that game so they are not on the list.

I pmed you the list. I hope that helps you, buddy! :-D

Thank you very much I updated adding the units from AA50 I did run into a couple questions for you and pm them to you.

@crusaderiv:

No. In fact i’m talking about historical accuracy battle.
If you make war you start with your strongest force.
Germany, USSR and later the Allies, used the tanks, planes and artillery to start the battle not with the infantry.

It really doesn’t make a difference as far as rules go. All defending units get to return fire regardless. If you’re assigning casualties i.e. tank vs tank etc. That would be incorrect. Except in the case of some naval units, the defender may assign hits to whatever unit they choose and may return fire.

I may not be understanding what your concept is. Please explain. If I am assuming you correctly you need to read through the rules again and it may give you a clearer idea of the combat sequence.

I’m not trying to be rude. I think your post could be a bit more descriptive. It will help people answer your question better.

I just purchased this game.  Before I get started, I had a number of questions, all revolving around the rule stating that one cannot strategic bomb or fire artillery into a space shared by opposing forces (i.e. Japan cannot fire artillery is a space shared by both Japanese troops and U.S. troops).  Given this point, when is a space shared?

If the U.S. lands troops on the beach adjacent to Nago, is the U.S. now sharing space with Japanese troops in Nago, Yabu, and Hokubu?  Once the U.S. lands on a beach, can the troops immediately attack either Nago, Yabu, and/or Hokobu?  Or must they wait until the beginning of next turn?  If they are able to immediately attack Nago, Yabu, and/or Hokobu, can they elect not to and just remain on the beach?

Does combat continue until one side is eliminated, the attacker withdraws, or the U.S. retreats when defending?  The rules seem to suggest combat works like in Axis and Allies World War I; one attack roll for each attacking unit, one defense roll for each defending unit.  If any troops are left on both sides, the combat ends, and the space becomes contested.

And finally, when the 23rd/26th Shipping Engineer Regiments attack Unaha and Uchima, the rules state that 4 IJN marines attack without U.S. return fire.  This rule suggests that combat only lasts for one attack roll per attacking unit (as I suggested above).  If combat occurs until one side wins, this rule suggests that the IJN marines destroy all units in Unaha and Uchima as the U.S. cannot return fire.

Now for two questions not revolving around shared spaces: When an LVT is offloaded from a transport, can it immediately move two spaces?  Or, as with regular Axis and Allies rules, once a unit offloads, it has no movement points remaining.

The rules state that Japanese troops within fortifications are impervious to air, artillery, and shore bombardment attacks.  Does that mean that fortifications cannot be hit by air, artillery, or shore bombardments?  If they can, then a unit in a bunker is impervious only until two hits are received.  The first hit destroys the bunker, the second hit destroys the unit.  If one reads accounts of the Battle of Okinawa, the fortifications were virtually impervious to shore bombardments and aerial bombings.

Any help would be appreciated!

@Lunarwolf:

fmg is doing the penn class now?

Yeah, they are.  A lot of people want more early war models of equipment since the main game now is Global 1940.  The South Dakota, North Carolina and Iowa classes didn’t come out until after 1941.

Yea well that was in 2004. BTW i am still looking for the files. But the order of battle is totally correct as well as the air power ratios.

Just tweek the existing inventory of units and alter as needed.