ABH vs Innocentbystander G40

I hope you had a great thanksgiving!

This is the richest I have ever seen Italy on turn 2.  Its all downhill from here.

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Ethiopia
                  Italians take Ethiopia from British
            1 armour moved from Albania to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            2 aaGuns moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
                  Italians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 artillery moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Libya

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            3 submarines placed in 95 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2
            Italians collect 21 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 21 PUs total
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 28 PUs

@Arthur:

Great holiday!Â

I’ve never gotten Iraq this quickly.  I have absolutely no idea if I should make a stand and try to defend it or to just let the British over-run it.  I can’t figure out which option would be to my advantage.

@Arthur:

There is no easy way to reinforce it unless you can control Egypt.  Landing planes there will get quite expensive, while UK can quickly get ground troops there from both India and Egypt.

I did the math.  My Japanese zeros are just barely out of range.  I can land (basically) my entire German Luftwaffe there.  You can hit it with (what?) 4 inf, 5 fighters, 1 tactical bomber, 2 tanks, 1 mechanized and a coastal shot.  I could defend with 5 inf, 3 fighters, and 2 tactical bombers.  Its dicey.  Very expensive for both of us.  But I think you are like an 80% favorite even if I land strat bombers there just get more pieces in the Middle East.

If I lose 3 fighters, 2 tach bombers, and 2 strat bombers, that might be my game.  I may have to let it go. This sucks, you planned too well.

@Arthur:

I have never had success getting control of North Africa or Middle East in the early game.  There gets to be more options by round 5  or 6 when the Axis has more powerful air forces.    Right now, I would gladly trade British forces for German planes since that relieves so much pressure off of Russia.

The thing is I am not sure I even need the Luftwaffe vs the Soviets.  I think with just land units, I have Russia crushed in this game (what with what Japan has done.)

The problem for me is that there is absolutely NOTHING for your spitfires to do other than challenge me in Iraq!  You don’t even need them (not really.)  Its like, you could lose all 5 and its not even a big deal.  You are correct, it is a much bigger deal for Germany at this point.

Game History

Round: 3

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            9 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
            11 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            5 artilleries moved from Poland to Baltic States
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Baltic States
            3 armour moved from Bessarabia to Baltic States
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
            2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            1 armour moved from France to Germany
            8 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Poland
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Karelia
                Germans attack with 8 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                retreated to Western Ukraine
                Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 13 armour, 5 artilleries, 11 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 13 armour, 5 artilleries, 10 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Poland
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
            2 aaGuns moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway

Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 infantry placed in France

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Big surprise (total war.)

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 armour, 4 mech_infantrys and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

Combat Move - Japanese
            Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Japanese
            2 armour moved from Kiangsu to Kwangtung
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kwangtung
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            12 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
                  Japanese take Buryatia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 armour moved from Korea to Buryatia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Korea to Buryatia
            3 artilleries moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            2 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                  Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            2 artilleries moved from Hopei to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow
            2 artilleries moved from Hunan to Kweichow
            2 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
                  Japanese take French Indo China from French
            1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow
            3 fighters moved from Amur to Japan
            2 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from 22 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 22 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 carrier moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            4 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
            1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Amur to Jehol

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Philippines
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kwangtung
                Japanese attack with 2 armour, 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from Kwangtung to Kweichow
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kweichow
            2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            2 fighters moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Amur to Buryatia

Place Units - Japanese
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Manchuria
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu
            3 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total