ABH vs Innocentbystander G40


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Russians buy 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Russians
                1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Malaya
                      UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese
                1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
                1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
                1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone

    Combat - Russians
                Battle in 123 Sea Zone
                    Russians attack with 1 submarine
                    Germans defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                    Russians win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                Battle in Malaya
                    Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 harbour
                    Russians win, taking Malaya from Japanese with 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
                Battle in Eastern Poland
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
                2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
                1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
                2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 19 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
                1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
                1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
                1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
                      Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
                1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Russia
                6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
                2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to Yunnan

    Place Units - Russians
                1 infantry placed in Ukraine
                Russians undo move 1.
                2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
                Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs total
                Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs


  • I have never faced a German player who holds Iceland so strongly.  Ingenious!  Meanwhile Japan is in trouble because China is so strong and it is difficult to get more troops to the mainland.  You needed to have captured Yunnan on J1, even with the DOW on the Allies.

    I personally don’t do a J1 attack on the Allies if I see that Russia is bringing units to help out China.  I find that China gets out of control and I need the first two rounds of Japan to focus on eliminating Chinese power.  As the Allies, I love the Russian support for China since it allows the US to shift focus to the Atlantic a round earlier.  Japan has to spend too much money on the mainland to build as big of a fleet.


  • @Arthur:

    I have never faced a German player who holds Iceland so strongly.  Ingenious!  Meanwhile Japan is in trouble because China is so strong and it is difficult to get more troops to the mainland.  You needed to have captured Yunnan on J1, even with the DOW on the Allies.Â

    I personally don’t do a J1 attack on the Allies if I see that Russia is bringing units to help out China.  I find that China gets out of control and I need the first two rounds of Japan to focus on eliminating Chinese power.  As the Allies, I love the Russian support for China since it allows the US to shift focus to the Atlantic a round earlier.  Japan has to spend too much money on the mainland to build as big of a fleet.

    When I wait a turn, I don’t get any of the 4 juicy islands with Japan.  ANZAC and India get too much of an edge in getting all goodies.  It turns into too much of a fight for money.  I suppose it is no better if I wait two turns


  • I usually do a J2 declaration of war unless I find that Russia is extremely aggressive in Asia and I need my planes to crush the forces.  About 90% of the league players also do J2 DOW since it can be difficult to hold on to Yunnan if Russia sends in a couple planes, a tank, and a mech infantry to help out.  If you do a J1 DOW, it is critical that you get Yunnan.  Otherwise China has additional forces and can start building artillery on China1.  Cow has a great set of articles on axisandallies.org on his recommendations for a J1 attack plan.  I used to always do his strategy until I met aggressive Russian players.


  • @Arthur:

    I usually do a J2 declaration of war unless I find that Russia is extremely aggressive in Asia and I need my planes to crush the forces.  About 90% of the league players also do J2 DOW since it can be difficult to hold on to Yunnan if Russia sends in a couple planes, a tank, and a mech infantry to help out.  If you do a J1 DOW, it is critical that you get Yunnan.  Otherwise China has additional forces and can start building artillery on China1.  Cow has a great set of articles on axisandallies.org on his recommendations for a J1 attack plan.  I used to always do his strategy until I met aggressive Russian players.

    Why couldn’t I “scramble” and kill the Russian Sub?


  • You had no destroyer so your planes can’t target the sub.


  • @Arthur:

    You had no destroyer so your planes can’t target the sub.Â

    Well that sucks.  I hate the rule.  Oh well, live and learn.  Did my cruiser even get a shot or did you just automatically sink everything because, there is no destroyer there?


  • Incidentally, you kicked my @ss in China this turn.  I lost a plane.


  • That is China’s job!


  • @Arthur:

    That is China’s job!

    Rule clarification.  Because I only had a cruiser and not a DD, did I even get a chance to sink your sub?


  • Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Japanese
                Japanese buy 2 destroyers, 1 factory_minor, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Japanese
                1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
                      Japanese take Kansu from Chinese
                1 artillery moved from Hopei to Shensi
                      Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
                1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow
                2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
                2 fighters moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
                1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kweichow
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kweichow
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kweichow
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
                1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kweichow
                1 artillery moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
                1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
                4 infantry moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
                3 fighters moved from Hunan to 6 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
                1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
                2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
                3 infantry moved from Chahar to Anhwe
                4 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
                1 armour moved from Korea to Jehol
                1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
                1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
                1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 artillery moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                1 artillery moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

    Combat - Japanese
                Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                    ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese win, taking 41 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                    Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
                Battle in Sumatra
                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    British defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Battle in Java
                Battle in Celebes
                Battle in Kwangsi
                    Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Java from Dutch, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Kwangsi from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                    Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Battle in Kweichow
                    Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    British defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
                2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                2 fighters moved from Kweichow to Kwangtung
                2 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Kwangtung
                2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
                2 tactical_bombers moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
                1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Japan
                1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                2 carriers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                2 battleships moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to 42 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Sumatra to 42 Sea Zone
                1 aaGun moved from Manchuria to Jehol

    Place Units - Japanese
                2 destroyers, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
                1 factory_minor placed in Kwangtung

    Turn Complete - Japanese
                Japanese collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs total
                Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Americans
                Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Politics - Americans
                Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians
                    Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Americans
                1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
                Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                    Americans attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                    Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans win with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Americans
                1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
                1 armour moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
                1 armour moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
                1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Midway to Queensland
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
                7 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
                1 fighter moved from Midway to Hawaiian Islands
                1 bomber moved from Western United States to Queensland

    Place Units - Americans
                2 carriers placed in 101 Sea Zone
                2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
                1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
                Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs total
                Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
                Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
                Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Chinese
                Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
                Chinese buy 3 artilleries; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Chinese
                1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi
                1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Shensi
                1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
                1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Hunan
                1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
                1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi

    Combat - Chinese
                Battle in Hunan
                    Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Battle in Kwangsi
                    Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese win, taking Kwangsi from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Battle in Shensi
                    Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                    Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                    retreated to Shensi
                    Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                    Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
                1 fighter moved from Shensi to Kweichow
                1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Yunnan

    Place Units - Chinese
                3 artilleries placed in Yunnan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
                Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs total
                Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 14 PUs


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - British
                British buy 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
                UK_Pacific buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - British
                1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Shensi
                1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Shensi
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Shensi
                1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Siam
                      UK_Pacific take Siam from Japanese
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
                3 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
                1 armour moved from Egypt to Iraq
                1 bomber moved from Egypt to Iraq
                1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
                1 artillery moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
                1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
                1 artillery moved from Burma to Yunnan
                1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan
                1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan
                1 artillery moved from India to Burma
                1 fighter moved from Yunnan to India
                1 armour moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
                Battle in Iraq
                    British attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 5 infantry
                    Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                    British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
                Battle in Shensi
                    British attack with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                    British win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - British
                1 fighter moved from Shensi to Yunnan
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Yunnan
                1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Sikang
                1 mech_infantry moved from Kenya to Egypt
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
                2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                1 fighter moved from Union of South Africa to Egypt
                1 bomber moved from Iraq to Egypt
                1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
                1 armour moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
                1 fighter moved from Malta to Gibraltar
                1 fighter moved from Malta to Egypt

    Place Units - British
                1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
                1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Egypt

    Turn Complete - British
                British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
                4 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
                UK_Pacific collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs total
                Some Units in India change ownership: 4 infantry


    1. When a sub attacks a cruiser, the sub first rolls a 2. �If it hits, the combat is over. �If it misses, the cruiser rolls a 3. �If it hits, the combat is over. �Repeat this process until one wins. �

    2. �Likewise if a sub attacks an Aircraft carrier with no destroyer escort, the sub gets to roll first. �If it hits, the carrier tips but can keep fighting. �The carrier can then strike back but it’s planes can’t help. �It has to fight back with it’s weak roll of 2. �I have seen a single sub sink a loaded carrier. �Not likely but can happen.

    3. If a lone cruiser attacks a sub, the sub can decide to submerge instead of fight.


  • Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Politics - Italians
                Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                    Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Italians
                4 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
                1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
                2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
                2 armour moved from Greece to Romania
                2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
                1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

    Combat - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
                1 armour moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                3 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
                1 artillery moved from Libya to Tunisia
                2 aaGuns moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                2 aaGuns moved from Yugoslavia to Romania

    Place Units - Italians
                1 carrier placed in 95 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs total
                Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
                ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - ANZAC
                1 fighter moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from India to 42 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone


  • I am sure that this will be an important sea battle for Japan so I will give you round by round choices.  Anzac hit twice.  What do you want to remove?


  • @Arthur:

    I am sure that this will be an important sea battle for Japan so I will give you round by round choices.  Anzac hit twice.  What do you want to remove?

    DD - Cruiser


  • @innocentbystander:

    @Arthur:

    I am sure that this will be an important sea battle for Japan so I will give you round by round choices.�  Anzac hit twice.�  What do you want to remove?

    DD - Cruiser

    Correction.  Just sink the carrier, both hits.  I need to keep more boats and I can land the planes.

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