Question about sub

Thank you very much for the reply.  We’ve been trying to nail all these rules down.  I’m sure questions more will come!

Correct.

No. Your one movement is the loading onto the transport. Any land unit on a transport can be loaded and offloaded on a single turn but it takes up all their movement.

Ah yes, that was exactly the conversation I was thinking of.  You are quite right, I was thinking of a defending air unit.  In combat the air units would retreat during the non-combat movement phase and of course not have movements allowed and would crash.

@Veqryn:

can you move a submarine into (not through) and stop in an enemy controlled sea zone during combat move, and choose not attack?

No, you can’t.  However, in AA50 and AA42 if there are no enemy destroyers you can submerge at the beginning of the first combat round, effectively avoiding combat.

@Veqryn:

can you move a submarine into (not through) and stop in an enemy controlled sea zone during Non-combat move?

In Revised, no.  In AA50 and AA42, yes, regardless of the presence of enemy destroyers.

I say the Sz2 attack is completely necessary, it is a little risky but look at it this way the Russian sub is hits on a 1 so it killing your sub is unlikely, that leaves your sub which will probably miss but with a hit that means the allies lose the only Russian sub they have or absorb the hit and drown by a bomber, if the sub misses You can count on the bomber/fighter to score one hit witch can’t be assigned to the sub, the allies will most likely hit with the BB you lose the sub and then the Bomber/fighter combo will finsh the fleet and if the BB hits again what’s another fighter you can buy one turn 1 and still have 30 IPC witch should be infantry anyways. and if your concern is money if you win you can definantly kill 27 IPCs (BB, Trans) and lose only 16max(fighter and sub if you win) if you lose than its 28 IPCs witch is only 1 more IPC than the U.K could have lost, and with the taking of Egypt the u.ks money is toast. even with a counter on Egypt Germany can take it again turn 2, a parked air force in westE allows the air force to kill any U.S/U.K navy attempt to deadzone Algeria Rd,1.

If you don’t do the battle your looking at a u.k BB,2destroyers and a Aircraft carrier with possible two fighters on it, and at that point losing your fighters in an attempt to kill their Navy will have to happen since a U.K invasion is a guaranteed to happen sooner or later. 
@Paulzy:

I would only consider attacking SZ2 if Russia did not non combat its sub there.  1 Sub, 1 BB is too risky to me.  I wana keep my Bomber and Fighters as long as possible with Germany.  Just my opinion.

I think by Killing the BB first turn it is actually saving the air force since the U.K now needs to build a fleet instead of just invade with the already existing one.

@Paulzy:

I know its risky but, the Ger sub in SZ8 is in range of US SZ10.  Since the sub gets the sneak attack, if it hits on the first roll, it will wipe out all 3 boats!  (unless im missing something)  Of course UK has a transport that cant defend at all sitting there, attacking it is what I have been doing.  Hopefully I will get some feed back on this and thanks :)

I saw that too and I think that even if you kill the cruiser and transports, the U.S is still only 1 turn from rebuilding its Navy and can still be in Algeria turn 2 or 3, your going to lose the sub to the destroyer in sz20 and the bomber and fighter in EastU.S, and leaving the U.K fleet alive hurts germany more in the long run than a U.S Fleet thats sole purpose is africa which is only 2 starting IPCs witch 38IPCs is ok to me but the U.S will spend so much time chasing you in africa and failing in france that taking caucasus by an Infantry push in turn 3/4 is all but inevitable.

@Cuyahoga:

I see…

Now say that UK takes all their 34 IPC…

Then say the next German turn…they have no IPC on paper…so the don’t buy any new forces…they do their
combat turn…they take back Berlin…they move their IPC marker back up from 24 to 34…then they collect IPC…they record on paper they have 34 IPC ( which they hope they will have to spend on next turn).

Then the UK does their turn and they retake Berlin again…so are you saying once again they grab those 34 IPC ?

If that is so…wouldn’t Germany be digging them in a big hole as far as UK amassing a huge ammount of IPC?

This seems an unfair rule?

Am i still missing something?

opps , i made an error…when i said that on Germany’s first turn after losing their capital…that thay had no IPC on paper and thus could buy no new forces…that was an error on my part…because they can’t buy new forces when their capitalis occupied by the enemy…

Maybe there is a small contradiction here.  Perhaps the rule on page 30 should say “anytime it would otherwise fire”.  Fire is simultaneous, whereas the actual dice rolling is not.