Generals/Heros

@Megatron it is a large drawback, which is why subs are the cheapest naval unit.

You said that Submarmines need to be in the pen for protection. That means they are shielded from destroyer + air attacks?

If you and/or your friend are really upset about the loss of the original MB A&A tech chart, pretty sure that method and chart are still 100% compatible with the current 1942.2 game if you really wanted it (I’m not talking about game-balance, but mechanically speaking, it would still work).

The old method was spend 5 IPCs per die you wanted to roll… if you spent 20 IPCs, that’s four die rolls. You’d roll the dice… each result of “6” was a breakthrough and you’d then reroll for each breakthrough and apply it to this chart:

Jet Power (fighters defend at 5) Rockets (1 rocket attack on enemy industry a turn for any AAA within 3 spaces of an enemy Plant… 1D6 IPC loss to enemy) Super Subs (subs attack at 3) Long Range aircraft (all aircraft have 2 more range) Industrial Technology (all units are 1 IPC less) Heavy Bombers (all bombers roll 3 dice instead of 1… note this essentially ended the game… lol).

If it’s really a big deal to you guys, all the above rules would work mechanically with A&A 1942.2… however, not all are balanced, especially Heavy Bombers, but that could be changed (maybe roll 3 dice and choose your favorite of the three).

There’s lots of custom rules for tech research… its not hard to either add the original rules, use someone elses posted on the forum, or just make up your own house rules. In any case, this is one of the easiest rules to add back into the game if you really miss it.

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About cost balance of Elite/Marines, here is a first point:

The 4 IPCs and 7 IPCs Marines unit transportation cost is relatively balance on the long run, when a player can use for a second time some transports.
After the first travel, where it is better for Marines unit, the transportation ratio is reversing toward regular units.

FIRST TRAVEL                                                        / SECOND TRAVEL, same transport
Cost ratio for Regular unit transportation:
3 (transport + Inf + Inf)                                                 3 (Inf + Inf)
3 (7+3+3) = 39 IPCs /6 grounds = 6.5 IPCs/unit  /  3(3+3)= 18 IPCs +39 = 57 IPCs/12= 4.75 IPCs/unit

2 (transport + Inf + Tnk) + 1 (transport + Inf + Inf)        (4 Inf + 2 Tnk)
2*(7+3+6) + 1*(7+3+3)= 45 /6 units = 7.5 IPCs/unit  /  12 + 12 = 24 IPCs + 45 = 69 IPCs /12 = 5.75 IPCs/unit

Cost ratio for Marines unit transportation:
2 (transport + Inf + Inf + Inf)                                        2 (Inf + Inf + Inf)
2*(7+4+4+4)= 38 /6 units = 6.33 IPCs/unit             /      2*(4+4+4)= 24 IPCs + 38 = 62 IPCs /12 = 5.167 IPCs/unit

2 (transport + Inf + Inf+ Tnk)                                       2 (Inf + Inf + Tnk)
2*(7+4+4+7)= 44 / 6 units = 7.33 IPcs/unit            /      2*(4+4+7)= 30 IPCs + 44 = 74 IPCs /12 = 6.167 IPCs/unit

So, after a second travel, with the same 12 units the transportation ratio is improving for regular units compared to Marines ones:

for 12 Infs vs 12 Marines Infs =  4.75 vs 5.167 IPCs/unit.

for 8 Infs+ 4 Tnks vs 8 Marines Infs + 4 Marines Tnks = 5.75 vs 6.167 IPCs/unit.

Some treads treat this subject but I wanted a new start here in house rules.
I have summarize some ideas to make these two units:
No more than 1 type of unit/territory.
Allow up to 2 bunkers or pillboxes/territory (2IPs allow 1 additionnal hit).
Also allow up to 2 heavy weapons fortification: cost 1 IPC and give +1 def 1 Inf/Art.

Cost   Move  Att  Def              Special
Coastal fortifications: 10    0      0   3Inf+1/3@1  Anti Ship Gun
Inland fortifications:  10    0      0   3Inf+1/3@1  Anti Tank Gun
Coastal fortifications work only against amphibious assault and give no bonus if territory only attacked by land.
Inland fortifications work only against land assault and give no bonus if territory only attacked by amphibious assault.

Both share the same other traits:
Take 2 hits, repairs as BB/ 6 damage points, repair at 1pt/1 IPC
Give up to 3 (Inf or Art) +1 defense/
AA in-built against SBR from SBs & TBs/

3 coastal guns ASG each@1 pre-emptive against support ships during amphibious assault, in order BB/CA/DD: once hit a BB cannot bombard, must repair.
Or
3 Anti Tank Guns 3@1 (pre-emptive strikes vs Armors)
It must take 2 hits to be destroy, or the territory has been captured.

Even if the 3 defenders has been killed, but take only 1 hit, as long as the territory is not captured then it can be repaired at no cost, as BB. Except for a Strategic Bombing Raid:

Can be SBR (damage are cumulative, up to 6 points) but do not affect the number of hit that unit can absorbs:
1-3: no effect
4: -1 def 1 Inf or Art/ -1@1 ASG (2 coastal guns attack)/ATG (2 anti-tank attacks)
5: -1 def 2 Inf or Art/ -2@1 ASG (1 coastal gun attack)/ATG (1 anti-tank attack)
6: -1 def 3 Inf or Art/ no coastal gun attack / no ATG attack

Even after taking 6 points of damage, it can still take 2 hits before being destroyed.

Special features:
The bombers (SBs/TBs) can make their first shot an SBR against these complexes (before the amphibious assault/ or normal combat occurs) and makes normal attacks against any ground units after the first round.

Hmmm, an interesting set of ideas.  I am planning to do the same, using the original Pacific and European games for my summer history class and historical gaming class.  I have some home rules for Pacific that I use, where I have increased the game to 6 players: the US, British India, Australia, the Netherlands East Indies, China, and Japan.  For the European Game, I am planning to add Italy, using the pieces from the Anniversary edition.  There will be theater commanders for the US and the UK in Europe and the Pacific, and a separate commander for Australia.

I do have rules for Lend-Lease, and also Lend-Lease certificates that I use.  I have modified the rules a bit for aircraft and shore bombardment, and Japanese Infantry are a bit harder to kill.  When I add Italy, it will have the option of changing sides during the game, or even staying neutral.  It does mean reworking the IPC for the Europe game, but such is life.  Should be interesting when it is finished.  I am also writing a combined rules set for the game.

lmfao i like on Tom Green when they play Celery Generals :D

basically, you make little men out of celery, cherry tomatoes, and toothpicks! then you each set your general out on the road…if my general got hit first, then the other person would have to pour dressing on it and eat it off the road. lol, i wanna try it. tom green rules 8)

OK TBB, ther are a few sights that offer tactical insight. Do an axis and allies search to find these. Look for Don Rae’s essays if you have some time on your hands. Silex offers a good map. Also look in the games section of this site to see how some experienced people play. Some of the posts in player help and axis and allies could be useful. Have fun!