1939 Map

for Japan I took the fighters and tacs and painted them blue. For US I took hellcats and tacs and painted them hunter green. Both colors are the same as that nations marines! That’s what I did.
It should be the opposite. Japanese naval planes must be dark green or entire white (As the real one). Most US navy planes was blue.

I looked at your special units for initial set.  I noticed France has none.  Why not consider adding the French Foreign Legion who where an integeral part of French North African Colonies?  Give them a higher attack and defense rating than normal French Infantry.  Limit them to 6-8 total at the start of the game and they can’t be constructed.
I think about that but the foreign legion was never a factor during the north africa campaign moreover the legion commanders was faithful has Vichy.

Hi,

Ref to France’s order of play, on the first page of the rules, it is # 4, with UK, and on the set up pages, it is last with the US, which one is the right one ?

J.  8-)

Hi again,

The rules mentionned that Germany start the game at war with France and UK, so far so good. Here is the situation I am in at the end of turn 4 ( am playing all the Allied ): Germany went on trekking in Europe, attacking strickly neutrals or pro-allied only, left Pologne alone, didn’t bother with France, is now in Turkey…( the Dutch are gone ).

Italia is so bored that it is buying fortification in Rome, there so many troops going no where that there is no place anymore to put them in…( cannot attack, Paris has not fallen )

France has a zillion of troops on the Magino line and put all its fleet togheter near Normandy and is stacking up in Paris ( cannot attack Germany, Pologne wasn’t attacked )

Uk is building up too and will send most of its fleet in the Pacific as it is at war with Japan but not with Germany because Germany didn’t attack France…

Russia didn’t bother to attack Pologne since it is now on the  pro-allied side. Just getting ready for Germany to attack around turn 6…

The US is building up in the Pacific, put all its fleets together and might be at war in an other 3 to 4 turns ( it is a long way to get at 80 with 2D6 per turn, got a 25+ when Japan attacked FEC though )

Japan’s fleets are far away from the US, took most of China but China is still playing hard to get. Japan is starting to gain more territories now but has to watch out for the Uk and US fleets.

Had any of you found itself in this situation ref to Germany not attacking either France or UK ? Or did we played something wrong, missed a rule, whatever ?

J.  8-)

can someone make a newbie, nation specific political rule card.  it would include a chart or some way to show how each opposing nation is brought into war. i.e.

USA-turn ()
Russia-turn ()
France-(name of territory(ies) needed to be taken)
ect….

as well as starting income, special unit rules, unit values and nation specific specials i.e. japans sneak attack  (and anything else you thing is needed for a SIMPLE game)

if some one did this for me(us) i would love them for ever <3

Had any of you found itself in this situation ref to Germany not attacking either France or UK ? Or did we played something wrong, missed a rule, whatever ?

Hi J.
Well, if the german player doesn’t attack…is realy boring. In fact, the goal of the game is to make war, to conquer the world, not to stay quiet or peaceful.
I created a 1939 game long ago. And I intoduced a simple rule. German player must attack poland first!
Don’t forget…France and UK declare war to germany 3 days after the Poland agression. So German player is the first to play and his only obligation is to attack Poland. Automatically, UK and France declare war to Germany.
In the mean time, German player may choose to attack France and UK in the fitrst turn or stay behind is line.
But if german player don’t attack after the second round, UK/France will be too strong and eventualy, German player will lost the games.
Axis player must have the ‘‘killer instinct’’ and think about -attack,attack,attack.

Uk is building up too and will send most of its fleet in the Pacific as it is at war with Japan but not with Germany because Germany didn’t attack France…
That’s what I try to explain, even if Germany don’t attack France…UK/France must be at war with Germany!
So UK fleet wiil stay in the atlantic to destroy the kriegsmarine and U-Boat.

Russia didn’t bother to attack Pologne since it is now on the  pro-allied side. Just getting ready for Germany to attack around turn 6…
Yikes…USSR and Germany sign a secret treaty in august 23 1939. Players must respect the treaty and Both German and USSR player must attack Poland.
After that. player must make their own strategy. More…after the poland agression, USSR player may influence or annexe baltic terrirory and Bessarabia.
So all you have to do is to add a simple rule…german and USSR player must attack poland and than you’re gonna have a game!!!

Hope this help.

Hi Crusaderiv,

I fully agree with your reply. Start the first move/combat actions of the game ( for Germany/Russia ) by attacking Poland ( historical ).

For the curious ones among you, here is the situation at the beginning of turn 9. ( I know, its been 2 weeks since we started the game but we can only meet once every two weeks, so ).

Germany ( with a huge army that didn’t have to fight France ) is at the gate of Moscow and will take it next. Italia is just building up but, as far as things are going, will not play at all in this game  :? . France is also building up and I am afraid it won’t do a thing either in this game ( could have move the french fleet in the Pacific though with a few transports but, I don’t know why  :evil:, I don’t trust Germany. UK is back in the Pacific with a couple of fleets + transports and retook Calcutta and is moving in to retake all the Dutch territories and pushing back Japan towards its home base, with help from Anzac. The big fight in the Pacific with Japan and the US was in the Philippines, so both forces are rebulding, US with a big fleet and Japan with infantries in Japan itself, URSS style. I will have to build up a fleet in the Atlantic too because Germany will try to get to the US without attacking France/UK.

The US won’t attack Italia in this game for sure. So all the Allies can do is win this game by denying the Axis from achieving their victory condition ( at the end of turn 15 ).

J.  8-)

Hi J.
Allies must Open a second front to help USSR. Right now!!!
So France attack Germany and send UK expedition forces in France.
What happen in Africa,Greece,Yugoslavia? If AF continent is udner allies control you must attack the southern part of Europe. (Again to support USSR)
Uk and US must join their forces to strike Japan in the pacific. If you kill the IJN…axis won’t win.
Don’t forget…if allies gain the control of seas, axis will lose!!

That’s the problem I am having now with the wording of the present rules. Germany didn’t attack Poland so France is not at war with Germany. Germany didn’t attack France either, so UK is not at war with Germany. And Germany rolled all over strict-neutrals and pro-allied territories in Europe and at the beginning of turn six went into Russia and just pushed the URSS armies aside. Since Paris didn’t fall, Italia is not at war and there is no war in Africa. The US is at war with Japan and Germany, and Italia also but the Italian forces are too strong now. The Uk and the US will lock up Japan on its home island in the next few turns, Germany will bypass the UK and France to get to the USA but I don’t think that will work for them. Will see in a couple of weeks how it ends.

J.  8-)

That’s the problem I am having now with the wording of the present rules. Germany didn’t attack Poland so France is not at war with Germany.
You have to change that rules…

Germany didn’t attack Poland so France is not at war with Germany. Germany didn’t attack France either, so UK is not at war with Germany.
The US is at war with Japan and Germany,
It’s a non sense…another rule to change!

Great.  Or just state that Germany must attack Poland on the first turn, as it happened historicaly, to start this game as WWII started.

J.  8-)

Hi tigerman.
Hey guys. I have made some changes to the rules to prevent this scenario from happening again. Simple rule: if Germany attacks any pro allied country it is at war with UK and France. I will also add if Germany attacks Russia they are at war with the UK and France.
The only pro allied I know is Poland.  :-D
If I want to attack USSR, I have to invade Poland before so I’ll be at war with UK/France already. :-D

By the way… your map is great…

@radar231:

Great.  Or just state that Germany must attack Poland on the first turn, as it happened historicaly, to start this game as WWII started.

J.  8-)

This would be the best way in my opinion.

I agree, great map!!

Just to keep it simple Ill take your guys advice.

War it is not complicated. The politics…. yes… :-D

@Tigerman77:

Just posted updated rules and setups. just some minor tweeks.

Hi,

Did a quick read, so far so good. Thumbs for the Foreign Legion. Notice in the set up for Russia that you still have a ’ Lenongrad ’ though  :lol:

J.  8-)

Need a clarification ref russian partisans.

Can you eliminate them ? Or must you leave an unit in each territories you conquered so that they won’t show up, or can they still exist by themself even if an enemy unit show up on the next turn in that territory etc etc.

J.  8-)