Bad speech:
Domestic issues: He said what people wanted to hear, but his real budget shows different numbers. Unfortunately, most Americans are too lazy or stupid to read he actual plan and take him at his word.
Iraq: This is the same tired crap we have been hearing all year, and it still stinks. He failed to answer some key questions in my mind:
1. Why only Iraq? There are lots of dictatorships in the world trying to get weapons of mass destruction.
2. Why aren’t we still trying to capture Osama Bin Laden? Didn’t he promise to bring him to justice? He’s not trying very hard.
3. What roles did key members of the US government play in bring Saddam to power and maintaining it through the inhumane means listed in Bush’s speech. In particular, how about full disclosure of the activities of Donald Rumsfield with Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war. If we are truly a nation that stands for freedom and liberty, then we should have nothing to hide right?
I also did not like the lies in his speech.
1. He talked about homeland security, but his office is blocking funding of the bill that was passed by the Republican congress.
2. He accused Iraq of torture, which I am sure they do, but he ignored the reports that Al queda prisoners in US custody are being “shared” with allies willing to perform “interrogation methods” the the U.S. considers torture.
3. The UN team said that the Aluminum tubes they found were not the kind needed to purify Uranium, but Bush said they were.
Lastly, I despise politicians that invoke the name of God to back their entirely human agendas. Bush needs to read the ten commandments. “Thou shaly not take the name of Lord your God in vain.” Bush, presumed to speak for God, and that God supports his War on Iraq. Very bad form. Much worse than all the “God Bless America” signs on places of business after 9/11.
A few things,
Hitlerism isn’t a word.
Osama is probably dead. There is no proof that he is alive. That tape was declared “probably a fake” by some institute.
Yanny, artillery rockets for delivering sarin
Locke got elected because his family is pretty (which says a lot about our state, we can only feel slightly better than California and New Jersey)
When we annex Canada and combine RI and CT into one state we should make Canda into a state called “New Washington”
About the DNC rebuttal, this one pundit said it best, “one of the worst buttals I have ever seen”
Those pipes he mentioned are probably for rockets delivering nerve gas, not for enriching plutonium for nukes.
Locke got elected because his family is pretty (which says a lot about our state, we can only feel slightly better than California and New Jersey)
At least our governor looks like a governor… when I saw him speak he seemed a little too giddy (nervous - hyperactive - whatever :-?) and unsure about himself. Also, I don’t want to hear about the life history of the man, I wanted to know about counterpoints. And does he wear a toupee? Me thinks the Demi’s would’ve been better with Gray Davis even. At least he has a much better ability to lie.
When we annex Canada and combine RI and CT into one state we should make Canda into a state called “New Washington”
can’t wait until this happens… no more canadians :lol: j/k j/k
“When we annex Canada and combine RI and CT into one state we should make Canda into a state called “New Washington””
Should not Canada belong to the Canadians? :( Just as long as they are free to choose. :)
yeah it most deifintely should, i was just kiddin. in fact, we have tried to invade canada 5 different times in our nation’s histroy, and we have not succecded once
Those Canadians sure can be courageous little buggers. ^_^
I’m not a great communicator so forgive as I lean on the better communication skills of others. The essay linked to below pretty much says everything I think and feel about Bush’s state of the Union speech. The author elquently points out several flaws in Bush’s logic that I for one would like answers to before agreeing that we need to go to war.
Sum Kritik - i am a doctor (almost)
Zero - Hear hear!
And yes, we Canadians are courageous, thanks.
Those Canadians sure can be courageous little buggers. ^_^
Yeah, I try my best not to piss of the Canadians. Drunken polar beers from Canada are never the solution.
yeah it most deifintely should, i was just kiddin. in fact, we have tried to invade canada 5 different times in our nation’s histroy, and we have not succecded once
That was before we had a military 100 times as powerful as theirs and before we bought 90% of their exports.
Anyway, I said we should annex not invade.
Yanny, artillery rockets for delivering sarin … Those pipes he mentioned are probably for rockets delivering nerve gas, not for enriching plutonium for nukes.
Well, if you denied them artillery, they would be totally defenseless to any country deciding to invade for any reasons.
Even a grenade launcher can be used to deliver chemical weapons, as can those little planes that are used to spay insecticides (sp?), let alone any person with a glas or plastic bottle….
So, unless we find the ammunition that is designe dto carry chemial weapons, you can only suppose that the arti would be used for that reasons and not with conventional weapons.
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Yanny, artillery rockets for delivering sarin … Those pipes he mentioned are probably for rockets delivering nerve gas, not for enriching plutonium for nukes.
Well, if you denied them artillery, they would be totally defenseless to any country deciding to invade for any reasons.
Even a grenade launcher can be used to deliver chemical weapons, as can those little planes that are used to spay insecticides (sp?), let alone any person with a glas or plastic bottle….
So, unless we find the ammunition that is designe dto carry chemial weapons, you can only suppose that the arti would be used for that reasons and not with conventional weapons.
That’s a complete oversimplification. The weapons inspectors are able to determine the probable use of the artillary shells by their dimensions, capacity, etc. Iraq is allowed to possess shells up to a certain range, but nothing beyond that.
5km range is artillery, and nothing else. I could put Biological weapons in a coke can if I wanted to.
Artillery is probably the most important force on the battlefield, after the individual soldier. Iraq is aloud to have Artillery, as any nation should. Bush competely lied to us when he said these weapons were prohibited.
This concept of current borders created by Evil EUROPEAN Imperialists being sacrosonct is ludicrous.
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@F_alk:
Yanny, artillery rockets for delivering sarin … Those pipes he mentioned are probably for rockets delivering nerve gas, not for enriching plutonium for nukes.
So, unless we find the ammunition that is designe dto carry chemial weapons, you can only suppose that the arti would be used for that reasons and not with conventional weapons.
That’s a complete oversimplification. The weapons inspectors are able to determine the probable use of the artillary shells ….
See what you wrote:
shells
See what i wrote:
ammunition
So, where is the difference?
You need the shells/ammunition to decide wether they are for chemuical weapons or not……
This concept of current borders created by Evil EUROPEAN Imperialists being sacrosonct is ludicrous.
True…
but you can be sure that no country would give away a whiff of territory…
And Iraq already tried once to overrule that concept… and lost the support of the US earning their animosity for it.
Ironically, Kuwait is culturally and socially accurate in it’s borders
TG Moses VI, No, I didn’t get to meet him. There were 5000 at the seminar. I think he’s 119 :P !
…Kuwait is culturally and socially accurate in it’s borders
… as per the Quran?
…When we annex Canada and combine RI and CT into one state we should make Canda into a state called “New Washington”
…But what would you call RICT?
I hope Canada and Mexico invade the US. We can surrender quickly and give CA to Mexico. We can give New England and WA to Canada. We can arrange reparations at the same time and give NY to the African Americans, FL to the Hispanics(or to Cuba) and Seminoles, and NC to the Cherokees. Some states in the Midwest and Plains states will have to be split up among the other Original Native Americans.
We must at least get rid of CA, WA and New England!
As Bush mentioned 15.2 billion for AIDS in Africa…
And yesterday added 16 billion for AIDS in the US…
(I looked back and found no AIDS topic until page 6 of General Topics [actually STDs])…
His plans do not include condoms… thank a deity…
But, how would drugs help? The Africans would, most likely, not be as reliable at taking meds, and this would help develop drug resistant strains of HIV.
If we send money it will end up in Bill Clinton and Nelson mandella’s hands and their cronies. Clinton has been over there a lot lately. He and Mandella have already set up a ‘support’ program for America to support :wink: ! Where do you think the money will go :roll: ?
