D_E_S, I concur.
“We brought destruction upon the [Palestinian] refugees,
by calling on them to leave their homes.”
“The Jews haven’t attacked any Arab village, unless attacked first.”
“Communism is inequality, but not as property is.
Property is exploitation of the weak by the strong.
Communism is exploitation of the strong by the weak.”
And thats why the terrorism continues. For Israel, the control is the lesser of two evils. For the Palestinians, the control is 10x worse than what they receive from the Terrorists or Arafat.
I’d like to see all you Israeli supporters under 24 hour curfew.
“Communism is inequality, but not as property is.
Property is exploitation of the weak by the strong.
Communism is exploitation of the strong by the weak.”
- Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
Wrong, wrong, wrong! In communism, not everything is equal as some people’s needs are greater than others (ex. great amount of labor). Also by exploting the strong by the communist government, you are setting yourself up to another national democratic bourgeois revolution, resulting in Stalinism.
Heres how I can see a communism working.
- Time. It takes patience to set this up, quite in contrast to the Bolsheveiks
This was not so much of a problem but to modernize and remove Russia from it’s isolated, undeveloped past. Bolsheveiks knew that if gains were not made fast (in productivity), they would leave themselves open to the counterattack of the capitalist and the increasing needs of the peasantry and the proletariat.
Choice. The economy is not ENTIRELY state run. You decide your career
The people are the state. You should be able to decide your career, though that does not mean you’ll always achieve it.
T_6,
Please, don’t get so bent out of shape about these quotes. They are views and definitions of the Russian Communist system. And I begin to see that they were right.
After all, and here comes a great Xiuote :P ,
" The problem with all governments, religions, political
and economic systems is that people are involved." - Xi
or
“Today’s Communism can survive
only if it abandons the myth
of an infallible party,
if it continues to think,
and if it becomes democratic.”
Please, don’t get so bent out of shape about these quotes. They are views and definitions of the Russian Communist system. And I begin to see that they were right.
From where? Books written by the capitalist? Sure they must be “fact.” After all, look at all their holdings, their paychecks, their life – they must know everything! Please capitalist, take advantage of us! Lets not think for ourselves… :o
" The problem with all governments, religions, political
and economic systems is that people are involved."
Faulty products often make for faulty people and vice versa.
“Today’s Communism can survive
only if it abandons the myth
of an infallible party,
if it continues to think,
and if it becomes democratic.”
- Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Swiss essayist.
WRONG!!! If you bothered to look up the movement of communist today, there is no “myth” of one, single infallible party. People are free to choose their own party and their own beliefs. But if the capitalists attack, we will defend ourselves and our system.
I go huntin’ with buckshot, accidentally :) shoot my neighbor’s cow, and he comes after me with a tactical nuke. :wink: - Xi
@F_alk:
Sorry, now I will try mein English!
Guderian, try a different translation program. The german text was without meaning. And don’t pretend you will “try” english, when you tried german ;)
i still find this really amusing. I went back to re-read the original quote, and now i can’t take it seriously at all. Am i the only one with this problem? Mind you, i guess Xi and TG’s arguments over quotes belittles the intent of the original post, so i guess that’s appropriate :)
The whole Guderian quote seems to be one piece of a puzzle.
It seems to have been pulled from somewhere else.
. . . terrorists will target and attack civilians if it serves
a political purpose. Revolutionaries attack military
targets. Classification of political groups into revolu-
tionary or terrorist labels is a matter of identifying
who was attacked and why.
-Guderian
“One of the striking differences between Fascism and Communism
is this: Fascism has inspired no great work of art… No doubt,
Fascism is too vile and scurrilous an ideology to produce those
charities of the imagination which are essential to literate art.
Communism, even when it has gone venomous, is a mythology of the
human future, a vision of human possibility rich in moral demand.
Fascism is the ultimate code of the hoodlum; Communism fails
because it would seek to impose upon the fragile plurality of
human nature and conduct an artificial ideal of self-denial and
human purpose. Fascism tyrannizes through contempt of man;
Communism tyrannizes by exalting man above that sphere of private
error, private ambition, and private love which we call freedom.”
i still find this really amusing. I went back to re-read the original quote, and now i can’t take it seriously at all. Am i the only one with this problem?
Hahaha… as F_alk would say, your German is very bad.
Mind you, i guess Xi and TG’s arguments over quotes belittles the intent of the original post, so i guess that’s appropriate
When I see a quote that I find inappropriate, I will deal with it. Us Americans don’t give up that easy.
“One of the striking differences between Fascism and Communism
is this: Fascism has inspired no great work of art…. No doubt,
Fascism is too vile and scurrilous an ideology to produce those
charities of the imagination which are essential to literate art.
Communism, even when it has gone venomous, is a mythology of the
human future, a vision of human possibility rich in moral demand.
Fascism is the ultimate code of the hoodlum; Communism fails
because it would seek to impose upon the fragile plurality of
human nature and conduct an artificial ideal of self-denial and
human purpose. Fascism tyrannizes through contempt of man;
Communism tyrannizes by exalting man above that sphere of private
error, private ambition, and private love which we call freedom.”
Hahaha, I think DasEwokSS would disagree with you on fascism (thank you for knowing the correct spelling).
Myths don’t come true, Communism will. There is no human purpose under communism? Give me a break. It would seem like it would have a more “humane” purpose. Be careful with human nature - it will surprise you. Also, Communism is freedom - compare that spectrum with fascism to see why.
