Can allies win?

[Usul513]

Gavin,
If you and a partner lose to someone else, that is still a loss
If it weren’t then I am undefeated as well (I have never played alone on a side, except maybe once or twice)
Also, I totally agree with playing myself when I have time, Its good to practice. Last time I played myself I learned about how to really annoy Japan.
What I meant by “Special” was maybe to look at it from a certain viewpoint. (like, go America first with axis and see what allies can do)
Robby

[Guest]

I can hadbly belive that these anonymous guy has not lost. I have a group of friends and have been playing for a while. Normall y I win like 45% of all of my games. When I play outside my group of frieds I normally have a 90% win ratio. Whats the lesson Winning or loosing means nothing, it all depends on the quallity of your opponentes. Well I do agree that the key for a Allie win its to coordinate all of the available fire power.
When I play with the allies my overall strategy its the following:
Russia most hold, these its eassilly done by massing all of the infantry in Karelia. UK must consentrate its first efforts in Africa. UK can eassily destroy all of Germanies troops in Africa on the second or third turn. USA must consentrate all of his efforts in harrasing Japan. All US troops must be moved to India.

well, my email adrress its hector@ufm.edu,gt for players in Guatemala

[Guest]

Sorry to be another Anonymous user but was reading this thread and just had to jump in with both feet. While Mr. Anonymous might be a very good player I also find it very hard to believe he has “never lost” but that is not why I am posting. I feel (as if you all care) that no matter how good the plan or its execution it really dose all just come down to the dice. I know that a well executed plan can go a long way moving you closer to victory but how many games have you played when the “Big” attack comes (35 inf, 15 Armor, 5 planes vs 45 inf, 1 AA or something like that) you get the King of the Crap rolls and get less then 10 hits and WHAM!! the defender rolls some GOD roll and hits like 25 or more times. This of course swings the game totally against your. Who could for see it? No one, and that is my point. No matter how good you are, how many years you play, how good your plan all it takes is a few bad rolls and that is all she wrote. Yeah you could say that everyone gets good and bad rolls in every game but I am talking about the “KEY” rolls in the game when you say “Well this is the game” So let me ask you what percentage of the game do you think is:

Your PLAN
Your DICE

I think it is 60/40. So just like any of you Great Leaders of Men I to have an a**hole … I mean opinion.

Thx,
DaBluemax

[KING TIGER]

Bottom Line is that I have never lost one

on one. All of your responses don’t shock me.

I have played games that have gone over 64

rounds. I have played games where the battles

include over 250 Inf and over 60 tanks not

to mention numerous aircraft. Things that

have kept my combat record alive are the

choices I make. When I play I have to be

in a specific mind set. I won’t play at the

drop of a hat. This is a game and because it

is a game I can choose to go to war at any

time unlike real Generals and soldiers so

quit acting like it is real and maybe you

will do better also. Patience is a virtue!

If you choose to respond to this try not

to make statements or ask questions that have

already been clarified because it becomes

redundant. I will do my best to accept a

challenge when I can spare the time with

school and all. To be more specific I play

the original version and the 2nd edition

rules. That is all that I play and all that

I will play. I don’t worry about my record I

just play the game. I could care less when

I loose I just find it amazing that many

people find it hard to believe that I haven’t

lost. Look forward to hearing from you!

KING TIGER-

[Guest]

Your statements may be true…or maybe not. Your opponents may be die hard’s…or maybe not. We are not here to tell you what you know is false, we are only here to be critics, observers, and learners…

But what I would like to see from you, is your views on other posts in this discussion board…what are your insights in the strategies we all debate on. Show us the light. Intrigue me, delight me with your wisdom. I’m dying to know…

I eagerly await your views…

[Guest]

I will have to agree with Damage on this one. Lets say you are the Axis player give use a run down on lets say your first 1 or 2 turns. Take in mind possible losses (or in your case maybe not). Please do not cop out with a post saying that you do not want to give away any secrets for I am sure we have all seen pretty much everything that could happen at least once.

Thanks,
DaBluemax

[KING TIGER]

Fair Enough! I’ll put some right now.

[Guest]

I was hoping that you would give a bit more details then that last post.

[bossk]

I would like to know who in the wide, wide world of A&A players would let their opponent amass that many troops. 250 infantry!! 60 tanks!! There’s no way that would be going on in any game of mine.

[ This Message was edited by: bossk on 2002-01-14 17:54 ]

[KING TIGER]

I put some on some other topics on the forum.

With Russia I usually buy eight Inf first

round. Then I set a trap for the axis player.

With Germany it all depends on the allied

player. Not just what Russia does but why

he does what he did with Russia and how

might the other allied units be involved in

the plan. I might plan a long war if I have

confidence in my opponent or I may have

already found your weakness. Judging by

the intelligence on this forum I would

consider most of you guys upper level

competition. Regardless of the level I

presume I never overlook my opponent or

underestimate him. I figure when I set up

a game with one of you it will take some time

so let me know who wants to set up a game

and we can attempt to set a game up.

We have to be realistic about the time a game

takes and it might be better to play on a

weekend but that depends on the other person.

Later-

[KING TIGER]

That is combined units Axis and Allies

[Guest]

Is it just me or did you just post a message that didn’t say a dang thing. I realize that it all depends on things but try to be a bit more exact like:

5 inf to EE, buy tranny first, ect …

Hell in that case I could just say the key to winning the game is to do something good and when the other player makes a bad move be sure to do a second good move bla bla bla but I think we all got that same plan. What I am looking for are some details.

[ This Message was edited by: DaBluemax on 2002-01-15 06:09 ]

[KING TIGER]

I guess my plans are to complicated to write

an email about. I would have to write a

paper. So ask me a specific question and I

will give you an answer.

[Usul513]

Where do you buy and use ICs?(all sides)
DO you ever buy AA guns?(all sides)
Do you ever buy tech rolls?(if so, when/who andwhy/why not?)(all sides)

[Guest]

From one Anon to another….

It appears to me…Anon…or King Tiger, sorry…that you should cut your losses on this conversation as I don’t think there is anything you can say that will change the minds of the readers on this forum which is, I believe, to say that you sounded awefully arrogant in your initial post.

Perhaps you are a skilled tactician / A&A gamer and have had much success. If it were me though, I would NEVER have said, “I have never lost” …even if it was true. It’s been my experience in life that nobody likes hangin out with a “know it all”.

Now, if you were to play me, you would win as I…ahem…usually lose, which is why I like to read some of the comments on the forum. Sometimes bad decisions…sometimes bad luck…sometimes a combination of the two.

I would think that putting ones money where ones mouth is would be in order here. Perhaps if you beat, and beat, and beat some of the players on this forum, you MIGHT restore some of the credibility that you instantly lost in your initial commentary. I still don’t think that the “I have never lost” comment would fly though.

Good luck in making new friends on the forum…which you seem to have a handle on already.

ta ta

Mylo

P.S. One thing that just occured to me, if I NEVER lost, I would quickly become bored and would have moved on to a more challenging game…WAY before 8 years. Do you ever get bored of playing A&A ??

[Yanny]

I like his idea. I challenge you to a game!

[Guest]

I enjoy reading the forums for information about A&A and to hope and learn new ideas from other players, and/or help others on some advice that may help them in the game. But it gets silly to read some players’ boosting their ego about how of an “invincible player” they are and not writing in anything useful. Except to challenge and demeaner everyone’s expertise, and skill of the game. There are good players and not so good players, lets help each other instead of everybody “flexing their muscle” at one another.
Can’t everybody just get along??

[Usul513]

On 2002-01-15 14:57, KING TIGER wrote:
I guess my plans are to complicated to write

an email about. I would have to write a

paper. So ask me a specific question and I

will give you an answer.

So here they are, some questions. Now please write me a paper or three.
Where do you buy and use ICs?(all sides)
DO you ever buy AA guns?(all sides)
Do you ever buy tech rolls?(if so, when/who andwhy/why not?)(all sides)

[KING TIGER]

Okay,

First off I really didn’t plan on using my

first response to boost my ego. My thought

was that maybe if you learned something so

well it could be that successful for you in

life. What I mean is could understanding the

limits of this game give insight to being as

good as possible. It is something that we

all strive for in life (getting good). So

that is why I play the game. It might help

to know who I am talking to though.

Getting to the AA guns and the other issues

I usually only purchase AA guns with Russia

or Japan. As far as industrial complexes go

I never buy them. I think they can make a

player loose command and control. Tech rolls

are also not a good idea. The reason I don’t

do any of these is because you increase your

odds of lossing. To be a solid player in this

game you must be able to read tempo, and

be able to fight any style, pace, or obstacle

an opponent may be able to come up with.

As noted before I suggested that many players

on this site have made good progress by

suggesting to other players that the allies

should go all out Germany. One flaw with this

strategy…… You commit yourself to one

style of play. That style of play is FAST

Paced. You are simply trying to overwhelm

your opponent. Lets look at the supper bowl

for example. The rams were fast paced, high

octane and whipped people. They almost

appeared unbeatable. Then they played a team

that adapted it’s style. The patriots did

the unexpected they used 7 defensive backs

instead of the standard 3 or 4. So what I am

trying to say is think outside the box. There

are many ways to win a game but what is the

most universal? What is the most successful?

Yes I can be beaten but I use all of the

elements that are present in the game. That

is why I have success.

[Yanny]

Wow, that was a lot of posts! but dont worry, Yanny has come to the Rescue! Next time you do that, please delete all of the words, makes it easier for the moderator to delete the post.

And btw, I had the patriots + 14 :smile:

Also, can you please not type in double lines like you do? It gets kinda annoying after awhile.

So, when is our game!