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    Is there a 3 player game AH could win, of course there is, AH empire, versus, Italy & USA. It would take three turns for USA forces to get to Italy, just to drop off 2 troopers & 2 guns. Venice would be taken, &, Tuscany(maybe Rome, skipping Piedmont) ready to fall, still it might save Rome for a while with the US forces arriving, but, all AH has to do is spend its funds on mostly naval forces. The AH navy would buy time for the land forces to take Rome.

    Skipping AH empire, would USA & Italy have a chance versus Germany. It helps that GE. does not touch Italy, so it would be mostly a naval game. Where would GE. strike the USA or Italy?, once a capital is contested the war is over, especially if GE. gets naval dominance and keeps the transports coming. True Italy could take out GE. colonies, both Allies could try to combine their fleets, but, still GE. is a force to recon with(on the flip side the Allies will probably never land any forces in GE.).

    Round One: Germany builds transport, sub., C & BB. Moves subs. from Sea Zones 5&7 to 3(to link up with surface fleet leaving Sea Zone 10). Eventually the fleet will sail to Sea Zone 14(equidistant from Rome & D.C.).

    Italy builds transport & sub., BB & transport goes to East Africa with 2 troopers(who boarded from Rome), on Italian mainland an adjustment of guns and troopers(goal of 4 troopers & gun) for each province. A reserve to be built in Rome, and, to garrison the home islands in the future with a trooper & gun(Sicily & Sardinia).

    USA builds fighter, transport and submarine.

    Round Two: Germany builds 2 transports, 2 subs., &, a BB. Now is moving fleet to Sea Zone 14(equidistant from Rome & DC, hard for Allies to link up).

    Italy builds fighter, gun, &, 2 troopers. Arrives off GE. E. Africa transport & BB, drops off gun & trooper(BB shelling wipes defending trooper), colony falls.

    USA builds BB, 2 troopers & gun. Has 2 troopers boarding transport.

    Round Three: GE. builds 2 transports, sub. & BB. More ships arrive Sea Zone #14, leaving home waters BB & 2 subs. & 2 transports(2 troopers & gun & fighter).
    Sea Zone #14 does not let US Fleet link up with Italians, or, go through Med. Sea or down west coast of Africa.

    Italy builds 2 subs. & a trooper. Moves from Rome via transport of trooper & gun to Sicily. Two troopers board transport off GE. East Africa, sail to Kamerun, where defending trooper is destroyed by BB shelling, and, troopers from transport have landed, the colony has fallen. Italy knows GE. transports are due to land at Rome/D.C. soon.

    USA builds 2 subs., gun & 2 troopers.

    Round Four: Germany builds tank, transport, &, 4 submarines. Fleets moving to Sea Zone 14.

    Italy builds gun, trooper, &, tank. Moves from Venice garrison trooper & gun to Rome via transport. Combat off S.W. Africa 2 troopers land from transport, and, BB shells. Defending troopers destroyed by shelling, the colony falls.

    USA builds trooper, tank, &, moves troops back to shore from transport, in case GE. fleet attacks next round.

    ROUND FIVE: GE. builds 3 transports and a BB. Decides to move from Sea Zone 14 to East Coast America! Also moves from 8 to 2(sea zones) of BB, sub., &, 2 transports. Along with from 10 to 8(sea zone) moves 4 subs.

    Combat 3BB, 3C, 7subs., &, 3 loaded transports, versus, USN 2 BB, C, transport, 5 subs., and, fighter. Losses to mines damaged BB & 3 submarines, also rest of GE. fleet with 2 transports lost, &, all U.S.A. fleet lost sans transport (including fighter that had scored a hit is lost). Lone GE. transport tries to land trooper & gun, but, destroyed by defending guns. All that remains of both fleets are a transport.

    For rest of Rd. 5 played Italy will take Togoland and try to send Med. fleet to East Coast, while USA rebuilds its fleet.

    Political lost for both sides, USA is no pushover for GE., but, Italy gives back GE. colonies to end war(GE. still has a surface and submarine fleets coming down to Med. Sea).

    Now if GE. had instead attacked Italy first. Moves ships from Sea Zone 8 to 14, Sea Zone 10 to 8, part of fleet already in Sea Zone 14 to 17. Off Italy mines damage BB & sinks submarine. Battle 3 BB , 2 submarines, &, 3 transport, versus, Italian C, 3 submarines, fighter, and, transport. Losses only 2 damaged BB remains, 3 transports, &, fighter for Italy. BBS shell & defending guns fire, each side losses 2 troopers.

    Transports land 1 trooper, 2 guns, &, fighter (Italian fighter lost in air duel), versus, 3 troopers, 3 guns, and, tank(which absorbs a hit). Losses GE. gun and fighter. Rome is contested!

    Italy builds 3 submarines, reinforcement trooper from Naples & Tuscany enter Rome, moves BB & transport to Togoland(shelling takes out defending trooper & landed troops take over colony).

    Combat Roman garrison counterattacks 5 foot and 3 guns, &, tank, versus GE. trooper & gun, losses Allies 2 troopers & Axis all.

    USA builds BB, transport, &, trooper. Moves fleet from East Coast to Sea Zone 14 of 2 BB, C, 5 subs., &, transport(heads for S. Africa), versus, GE. fleet of BB, 3C, 5 subs., &, 2 transports. Losses all but GE. 2 Transports.

    Again political sour grapes for all, 2 transports will not take out Rome, still GE. has fleets, but, with USA in the flank, hard to just concentrate on Rome alone. Also Italy can get GE. out of the Med. for good, give back the colonies.

    Now starting Round Five again, with GE. attacking both Allies at the same time. Splitting the GE. fleet, would not probably lead to any landings on the East Coast(if the fleet is not wiped out), probably landings in Italy, but, without BBs(back on East Coast) to help with shelling.

    Losses IPCs when USA attacked first:Land Axis 15 & Allies none, Air both sides 6, Sea Axis 111 & Allies 63.
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    Next U.S.A. & U.K. versus Germany. GE. cannot wait four rounds to try an Operation Sealion, maybe two, destroy the Brit. home fleet and make a landing. Of course two troopers would not contest London, but, would help set the stage for a minor political victory(get back any lost colonies).

    The Allies if they can link their fleet and prevent a GE. fleet breakout from the North Atlantic, can get a minor political victory(colonies in Africa). Forget about invading GE, it would drag out to a long game.

    Round One: GE. builds BB, C, sub. & transport, &, orders surface & sub. fleets to attack British Home Fleet. No mine losses, BB & 2C & 4 subs. versus Britsh BB, 2 C, & transport. Losses GE. all subs & Allies all lost.

    From GE. colonies undefended Gold Coast & Nigeria are captured.

    British Empire builds fighter, BB, &, 2 submarines. Moves to Scotland trooper from York, and, from London, 3 troopers & gun to York. Also from Canada C & transport arrives off Ireland & debarks trooper & gun. From Egypt C & transport with trooper & gun, head for home islands, along with India fleet of BB & C(Indian transport heads for S. Africa with trooper & gun). Together with Egyptian garrison of gun & 5 troopers heading for S. Africa, and with trooper from Rhodesia. Entering GE. East Africa, trooper & gun from S. Africa versus the same(both sides lose a gun).

    U.S.A. builds transport, sub., &, fighter. Moves BB & C off Ireland Sea Zone #7.

    Round Two: GE. builds transport, BB, & 3 subs., moves new ships to join fleet in British home waters(no losses due to mines), off London. Two BBs, 3 C, and, sub., versus British BB, 2 subs., and, fighter. Losses Axis both BB damaged & sub., &, Allies all.

    Sea landing in Scotland, BBs shell & take out a defender, trooper & gun land & take out remaining trooper, Scotland falls!

    British Empire builds 2 BB, &, moves 3 troopers & gun into Scotland, from York(shire). Also moves troops from Wales into York. A C from Med. Sea goes off London, &, transport returns back to Canada. Med. Sea fleet approaching Home Waters, &, India Fleet enters Med. Sea(Indian transport arrives off S. Africa).

    Troopers enters GE. East Africa, &, Egyptian garrison enters Brit. East Africa. Troopers three & gun defeat defending GE. trooper in Scotland, it is retaken! GE. S. Africa becomes contested when Brit. 2 trooper & gun attack from Brit. S. Africa, defending trooper & gun(Allies lose a trooper & Axis lose a gun).

    US builds BB & fighter. Moves BB & C to join Royal Fleet off London, sub. & transport arrives off Ireland and lands trooper and gun(fighter lands there).

    Round Three: GE. builds BB,C, Transport, &, 2 subs., moves from Scotland to Kiel transport. Naval ships from Kiel join fleet off London, mines damage a BB & sink a submarine. Combat 3 damaged BB(one due to mines), 3 subs.(one lost to mines), 3 C, &, transport, versus, British 2BB, C, and, USA BB & C. Now the only
    survivors are 2 damaged GE. BBs & transport.

    Land Battle in Scotland 2 BB shell and take out defending trooper. Landed trooper(gun lost to gunfire of defending gun) versus Brit. 2 troopers & gun. Scotland is contested.

    British Empire builds BB, C, &, submarine, moves Indian Fleet in Atlantic off London of C and transport(lands gun & trooper). Canadian transport lands as reserve trooper & gun in Wales, &, from London gun sent to Wales.

    Also 2 troopers & gun enter South Africa, &, transport lands as reinforcements trooper & gun in GE. S.W. Africa(losses Allied trooper against defending trooper).

    US builds BB, sub., &, transport, moves a transport & sub. off Scotland, lands trooper & gun(fighter arrives from Ireland). Also a BB sails to Ireland & a fighter from East Coast lands there.

    Battle Allies lose gun & defending Axis trooper is lost, Scotland is uncontested!

    Round Four: GE. builds 2 BBs & C, moves reinforcements to join fleet in Brit. Home Waters(no mine lost). Transport goes back to Kiel, combat 3 BBs(two which are damaged), C, 2 subs., &, 2 transports, versus, British BB, sub., 2 C, transport, &, US fighter. Losses all but GE. BB & 2 transports. Land combat BB shells London & 2 Brit. guns counter fire, losses trooper each side. Landed trooper & 2 guns versus the same. Both sides lose 2 guns, London is contested!

    British Empire builds 2 BB & a trooper, a transport goes back to Canada, troops enter S. Africa(in S.W. Africa another Brit. trooper lost), reinforcement into London of 2 guns & trooper. Battle 2 troopers & 2 guns destroy invading GE. trooper, London is uncontested.

    Indian fleet of BB & C arrive off London, versus, GE. BB & 2 transports. Losses damaged BB & C lost, &, all GE. units.

    US builds fighter, tank, &, submarine. Moves sub. & BB off London, &, transport heads home, with fighter flies from Ireland to Scotland. Also BB, sub. &, transport with trooper & gun arrive of Ireland.

    Germany has lost Naval dominance, it can still build naval forces, &, is practically invasion proof. Allies will keep GE. in the North Atlantic, but, Brit. did have a partial Sealion done against her.

    Minor political victory/lost for both, Axis will not invade Brit. Home islands again, &, Germany gets her colonies back.
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    Allies France & U.S.A., versus, A.H. Empire. The former needs to take over her home waters(with the second largest land forces on the board, AH is practically invasion proof), while the latter can wreck havoc in French Med. area. If the Allies continue to shuttle forces into off the coast of Trieste, even with AH building new naval forces, the Axis will be contain on the seas.

    Round One: A.H. Empire builds sub., BB, & fighter. Moves BB, C, &, transports to off Marseilles(BB damaged due to mines), versus, Fr. BB & 2 transports. Losses C & all Allies. Lands in undefended Corsica & Marseilles a trooper.

    France builds 2 BB, &, moves from Brest to S. France BB & transport, &, Burgundy garrison into Marseilles of 6 troopers & 2 guns(destroys defending AH trooper, Marseilles is uncontested).

    U.S.A. builds transport & 2 sub., moves BB & C to off entrance to Med.Sea to
    join Fr. fleet.

    Round Two: AH builds 2 BB, moves fleet of BB & sub. & transport to off S. France, with no losses due to mines(transport returns to home waters). Combat 2 BB(one already damaged) & sub. versus FR. 2 BB. Losses all but damaged AH BB.

    FR. builds BB & fighter, and, Brest fleet arrives off S. France. BB goes off Corsica and shells & destroys defending trooper, landed trooper takes over island.

    US builds BB & C, &, moves BB & C to off Italy joining Fr. BB. Also 2 subs. & transports arrive to entrance to Med. Sea.

    Round Three: A.H. builds BB, C, &, fighter, to off Italy goes 2 BB, sub., transport, & , fighter, versus, Fr. BB & US BB & C. Losses only both AH BB survive(one damaged).

    Fr. builds BB & 2 subs. Moves to off Italy, 2 BB, fighter, & loaded transport(trooper & gun), versus, AH 2 BB(one damaged). Losses Allies BB & fighter, &, Axis all.

    USA builds transport, C, &, submarine. Arrives Central Med. Sea transport(trooper & gun) & 2 subs., C from East Coast arrives S. France, &, BB arrives entrance to Med. Sea.

    Round Four: AH builds fighter & 3 submarines. Moves fighter & BB & C to central Med. Sea, versus, US 2 subs. & transport(trooper & gun) & Fr. BB & transport(gun & trooper). Losses only Fr. transport survives.

    Fr. builds BB, C, &, submarine, moves transport(gun & trooper), BB, &, 2 subs. to AH home waters( 3 subs. & fighter are there). No combat.

    US builds BB & transport, moves BB & C to central Med. Sea; off the East Coast C goes to Med. Sea(followed by transport with gun & trooper & sub.).

    Round Five: A.H. builds 2 BBs.

    Fr. builds 2 BBs, moves from W. Med. Sea, 2 BB & C & 3 subs. & transport into A.H. home waters(no mine damage), versus, 2 BB & 3 subs. & 2 fighters. Losses all left Fr. damage BB & transport(no landing made).

    US builds tank, fighter, &, C. Moves, with no mine losses, BB & 2C into AH home waters, &, sub. arrives off Italy, &, off Med. Sea BB & transport.

    At this point AH is just battling to keep her home waters Allied freed, while the latter will probably never be able to invade, by sea. An impasse has been reached, both sides are unable to win, mush less lose. At this time US has BB & 2C, sub., & 2 transports. While Fr. has 2BB & transport, &, AH has to match those ships.

    Losses IPCs: Allies 06 land, 18 air, 178 sea, &, Axis 06 land, 06 air, &, 148 sea.

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