I guess we will just have to play each other at some point  :wink:

@Cmdr:

So far this year, 100% of my opponents have gone 7 Infantry in E. Europe

Kwangbang is very successful with minimal risk really.  1)  You get a Japanese fighter.  2)  You get Kwangtung and Manchuria which is +6 Allies and has to be liberated, usually resulting in China not falling to Japan and an extra American fighter on the game board (+12 Allies).

So you lose 2 British Infantry, 5 Russian Infantry, 1 Russian Armor for: 5 Japanese Infantry, 1 Japanese Fighter +  A bonus American Fighter.

Loss: 26 IPC
Gain: 39 IPC (Total Japanese Units killed + Allied Units saved in the maneuver.)

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I think it should be noted that a power Europe build necessitates an armor build for Russia.  I like 3 Inf, 3 Arm.  This gives you 6 Armor, 2 fighters to hit Karelia with, so that massive stack of units defending at two has a good size stack of units attacking at 3 supported by a massive stack of units attacking at 1.

That math doesn’t quite work out because Japan should lose additional units if they follow the plan you laid out above. However, Japan does not have to take back Kwangtung (I wouldn’t) and the US is not completely safe in China now(I would try to kill them if feasible).

It sounds like you are describing some variation of the Brutus Backstep to counter PE, especially your purchase…which I am sure can work quite effectively, Brutus’ record speaks for itself. If your last 7 games were 7inf ukr PE bids and you have won all seven, why fix what isn’t broken. Keep on Backstepping.

here’s a link for the Brutus Backstep where it is discussed a little:
http://iaapaopenforumbbs.yuku.com/topic/1266/t/Brutus-Backstep.html

The extra inf in Eeu is good for countering Ukraine and killing off the russian armor.

There are still many great 2nd edition players out there….I get beaten all the time.

My standard bid is 5inf libya, 1inf Eeu, 1inf Bur and 1ipc Germany. Personally, I love it when someone Kwangbangs me against this bid.