Thanks for the info, just wrote to get mine! :-D

Why are you posting if all you’re going to do is cry? You’re certainly not helping the situation!

I build 2 TR’s, DD, & a sub. I’m a firm believer of a J1 attack that takes out the UK BB & TR’s, the ANZAK sub, the US DD & 2TR’s. Also taking Ceylon and vacant China territories, HK & FIC.

At the end of the turn the IJN may have lost a DD and/or a sub. The fleet from sz6 is moved to the Carolines to react to any US moves toward ANZAC. The small fleets in Ceylon & PI are out of range of UK & ANZAC planes & ships and can combine in the next turn while working on DEI. UK has been denied 8 IPC income (3 for Cey and 5 for NO) & US denied 7 right from the start. Note: I have failed to take PI because of bad rolls leaving 1 or both of the planes but it falls on the next turn.

Next 2 turns I purchase a minor IC for FIC & HK.

@maverick_76:

How can China even have the money to buy artillery? Even if the road is opened, I only buy infantry because you are usually always on the defensive.

If your income is 13 and the road is open 3 inf, 1 art… very possible, and useful to grab a territory here and there…

@Piazza2425:

Also, Japan could not land the AA in hawaii on the turn that Japan takes it.  Next round they can.

I’ll have to review the rules again, in this case it didn’t matter, US couldn’t get thru the navy to assault the island.

@RJL518:

sounds to me that somepe conceded too early…thet attacks u describe sound tasty to be sure…but…I wouldn’t have quit so fast…it is still  up to japan to take the cities it needs…and the allies ca defend teir teritories for a while  while the us gets back into the game

I told my opponent that he was conceding too soon, but he convinced me it was over…. after reading the responses to my post I agree he shouldn’t have and I will try some of the stratagies suggested should that attack  happen against me as allies

@Frontovik:

isn’t kwangsi worth 1, so impossible to build IC?

We have played this wrong… missed the ipc value requirement

@dinosaur:

I think it is reasonable to consider what-if on a J1 all-out-Hawaii strategy.  What is the US afraid of on J2? 
Is Japan going to sit there in Hawaii with the whole IJN (save 1 CA, DD and SS)?  I don’t think they can aford that.  Their money is in the DEI, just like history.  If they sit there, the US player needs to just have enough ground units to make sure any reinforcing of Hawaii to launch an attack on the west coast doesn’t have a significant chance of winning.  With the IJN in SZ 26, US saves their remaining money and waits.  I think that the Japanese can not wait indefinately and the rest of their game will come to a hault without getting any significant more IPCs.  If I am correct, the US will make one huge Navy buy after another, and the IJN will have to withdraw from Hawaii or face anhilation.
Here is a hypothetical, if the US buys only 9 subs on one turn at Western US, how does the IJN respond?  I know they will say we will sink them.  With what?  Can they bring enough DDs to give their planes enough rolls to wipe out all the subs before they run out of DDs and the attack ends with US subs still on the board?

Why shouldn’t IJN sit there, they will build additional fleet to augment the other  smaller fleet…  they can add to their fleet much easier and faster than UK or ANZAC while buying ground units…
as for the dd’s,  you only need one dd to spot ALL the subs in the same sz!

On turn 1:
Hawaii was taken with 2 inf, 1 art, and 1 aa. The sz contained 3 cv, 3 ftr, 3 tb, 2 bb, 1 ca, 2 dd, 1 sub, and 3 tr at EoT.

ANZAC sub was sunk

UK bb & tr’s were sunk (bomber from Man & Kiangsu, ftr from Formosa - lost ftr) With the loss of the tr’s UK can’t grab islands and if they purchase new ones it will limit the ground forces needed to keep Japan at bay from Burma & India.

Japan placed an ic in Kwangsi

US counterattacked Hawaii sz, the cv, a ftr, tb, & bomber survived after damaging Jap capital ships which repair on their turn. No Jap air losses. He conceded the game.

Even if US didn’t counterattack, Japan would have attacked the remaining US fleet. With the Jap fleet camped out at Hawaii any new ship buys will be blown away as soon as they come into play and Japan can direct most of their new buys at ANZAC &/or UK.

There is no defense to Hawaii being attacked other than hoping for J bad rolls as it happened on J turn 1. Can Allies recover from this first turn strategy?

We couldn’t come up with a solution so we made it so it takes 2 movement to go thru sz 16 which prevents a 1st turn attack on Hawaii island.

Any thoughts?

I believe the Hasbro pc version of 2nd edition had a variant for paratroopers.