@Deviant:Scripter:
You can’t prove that God doesn’t exist…any more than I can prove that he does. So don’t be so sure of yourself.
ta ta ta…
You can’t prove the tooth fairy does not exist
You can’t prove Odin does not exist
You can’t prove Kami does not exist
You can’t prove Trolls does not exist
But, i image you do not believe in the tooth fairy, you do not believe in odin and you do not believe in Kami… Why ? Because you have not a single reason to believe they exist… and i can assure you that if they were of any use to calm down people like god is, people would believe in the tooth fairy and in trolls…
There is some rules in science, we do not claim the existance of something if we have no reason to. Note that i never said we cannot believe in something that is not proven, for exemple Telepathy. The problem is that everywhere God is; in the creation of the universe, in the creation of humanity (et cetera), there is a logical, rational explanaition. But often people choose easy answer, even more if the answer is as golden as god, i mean, living an illusion with god give you so much hope, eternal life, eternal joy, no need to think if something is wrong; god say it for you.
So… i cannot be 100% sure god doest not exist, that would not be rational, but i believe that he is as probable as the tooth fairy…
By law Australia has to accept any religion where over 10,000 people as it during a census. I believe this means federal funding )
@Deviant:Scripter:
You can’t prove that God doesn’t exist…any more than I can prove that he does. So don’t be so sure of yourself.
ta ta ta…
You can’t prove the tooth fairy does not exist
You can’t prove Odin does not exist
You can’t prove Kami does not exist
You can’t prove Trolls does not existBut, i image you do not believe in the tooth fairy, you do not believe in odin and you do not believe in Kami… Why ? Because you have not a single reason to believe they exist… and i can assure you that if they were of any use to calm down people like god is, people would believe in the tooth fairy and in trolls…
There is some rules in science, we do not claim the existance of something if we have no reason to. Note that i never said we cannot believe in something that is not proven, for exemple Telepathy. The problem is that everywhere God is; in the creation of the universe, in the creation of humanity (et cetera), there is a logical, rational explanaition. But often people choose easy answer, even more if the answer is as golden as god, i mean, living an illusion with god give you so much hope, eternal life, eternal joy, no need to think if something is wrong; god say it for you.
So… i cannot be 100% sure god doest not exist, that would not be rational, but i believe that he is as probable as the tooth fairy…
One can’t be sure that I didn’t wake up this moring with a horn in my head.
However, from our understanding of SCIENCE, everyone knows that I did not wake up this morning with a horn.
I can’t prove God exists, but from my understanding of/in science,
I belive he/she does not.
I wouldn’t expect you to Mr. Ghoul.
Somehow you don’t strike me as that type of person. :wink:
How would your understanding of science convince you that God does not exist?
Ghoul regularly sprouts horns from his head.
i don’t know WHO he’s trying to fool . . . .
I think the time has come for the final battle between theism and atheism. Lets hope it will be a good one…
I think the time has come for the final battle between theism and atheism. Lets hope it will be a good one…
The GASF will win ! (German Atheist Scientific Force)
Oh I thought it meant German Atheist Scientific Fools.
Ha, I wouldn’t know about that…
I was just joking FinsterniS, don’t take it personally.
I’ve discovered in my life that EVERY argument can be countered, every evidence can be denied; except for ONE. If Finsternis doesn’t believe certain things that I say, its his prerogative. What NO ONE can deny of me is this: JESUS, GOD; BLIND, FOOLISH FAITH, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED WHO I AM. I NO LONGER SWEAR. I CHOOSE TO LOVE. I FORGIVE, EVEN WHEN IT IS HARD.
(and none of these things come from me… you would know this as fact if you knew me before I believed in Christ!)
I don’t need an outside force to change who I am. I’m strong enough to use my inner strengths and those around me to get through times of trouble. And that has made all the difference…
@city:
I’ve discovered in my life that EVERY argument can be countered, every evidence can be denied
It’s so easy… So false also… The fact you can’t give an unfallacious argument for god does not mean “every argument can be countered”. Saying non-sence, then claiming everything can be countered is a very strange way of thinking… if you want to be blind go ahead; but it’s not for me.
What NO ONE can deny of me is this: JESUS, GOD; BLIND, FOOLISH FAITH, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED WHO I AM. I NO LONGER SWEAR. I CHOOSE TO LOVE. I FORGIVE, EVEN WHEN IT IS HARD.
God’s love…. i call that hate but anyway… I never said it did not change your life, i don’t know, but still it’s not a reason to believe in mythology, it could be, like you say yourself, “Foolisth faith”. Some scientist claim those who pray had less heart problem, it’s true, not because of god, because you can pray anyone, god, satan, allah, boudda, the important is the meditation, it is calming. What i want to say is that even if god help some people, we can easily call that fanatism, blind faith.
Hi, sorry for jumping in so late on this one, but I have been reading the thread as its grown. I just want to toss out a question:
If God exists and it created the Earth, us and everything else, then why do we have earthquakes? There is no tectonic activity on either the Moon or Mars. So God must be able to create planets that do not have quakes. Earthquakes have killed countless people over the centuries and caused tremendous physical damage to cities, etc.
If God is good, then we would not have earthquakes. We have earthquakes. Planets exist that do not have earthquakes. Therefore God is either evil, not omnipotent, or does not exist at all.
Thanks,
God only wants what’s best for us! We didn’t follow the “Bible” so now we get punished :roll:
I doubt all people killed in earthquakes are sinning Christians…
Hi, sorry for jumping in so late on this one, but I have been reading the thread as its grown. I just want to toss out a question:
If God exists and it created the Earth, us and everything else, then why do we have earthquakes? There is no tectonic activity on either the Moon or Mars. So God must be able to create planets that do not have quakes. Earthquakes have killed countless people over the centuries and caused tremendous physical damage to cities, etc.
If God is good, then we would not have earthquakes. We have earthquakes. Planets exist that do not have earthquakes. Therefore God is either evil, not omnipotent, or does not exist at all.
Thanks,
Well, that’s quite a radical jump.
First, from what I believe, the moon isn’t composed of the same material that the Earth is. There’s no rule that “all planets must have earthquakes.” This doesn’t really have anything to do with God either being evil or not, since you could make this accusation towards anything bad that happens in the world.
Ha, the moon landings were fake. :wink:
