I have faith in what I can touch, feel, and see. I have faith in myself and the people around me. I do not have faith in what some 2000 year old power hungary meglomaniacs thought up.
eyeless_9mm,
I’m sensing a lot of anger from you. There are some great relaxation techniques available for people with that kind of anger.
Also i appear to be one of those people with 1/4 brain mass. It’s amazing what willpower and talent will get you these days . . . . :D
“I’m sensing a lot of anger from you.”
God will accept you even if you won’t. But if you are not happy without God, then it might be hard to be happy even with him.
“I do not have faith in what some 2000 year old power hungary meglomaniacs thought up.”
I do not think the people who started the church were power hungary meglomaniacs… at least I hope they were not. But remember, there has never been something so old that it was not new and something so new that it will not be old.
Ok, then I declare my offical Religion Jedi. Its regonized in Australia as an offical religion with 78,000 members.
@cystic:
eyeless_9mm,
I’m sensing a lot of anger from you. There are some great relaxation techniques available for people with that kind of anger.
Also i appear to be one of those people with 1/4 brain mass. It’s amazing what willpower and talent will get you these days . . . . :D
@9mm:
Well anyone with a fourth of a brain mass would come to the realization that “faith” is totaly futile. Just because we HOPE for something does not mean our wish will have any affect on something in the end.
I agree with 9mm, you do not need to have a big formation in Philo/Physic/Math to understand why god is an incoherence. But this is not only a problem of intelligence, because i am sure CC have all he need to be atheist, but for some it is clearly impossible, they don’t have the will to make a rigorous look at god. And anyway, so much people believe like them it is far easier to follow. God does not exist, but people prefer to live with a lie, it’s easier than to live alone… We don,t need a lot of thinking to understand why religion is all pink for the believer, they will be saved, eternal joy, eternal life…
Also it is very, very hard to admit that all your life you talk to something that does not even exist.
Ok, then I declare my offical Religion Jedi. Its regonized in Australia as an offical religion with 78,000 members.
Good. Now be one with the Force.
God does not exist, but people prefer to live with a lie, it’s easier than to live alone…
You can’t prove that God doesn’t exist…any more than I can prove that he does. So don’t be so sure of yourself.
Also it is very, very hard to admit that all your life you talk to something that does not even exist.
Again, the only way we can truly know if God exists or not is to die. Not many ways to admit something once you’re dead, 'eh FinsternisS? That’s probably the more rational explanation for why people don’t admit it.
@Deviant:Scripter:
You can’t prove that God doesn’t exist…any more than I can prove that he does. So don’t be so sure of yourself.
ta ta ta…
You can’t prove the tooth fairy does not exist
You can’t prove Odin does not exist
You can’t prove Kami does not exist
You can’t prove Trolls does not exist
But, i image you do not believe in the tooth fairy, you do not believe in odin and you do not believe in Kami… Why ? Because you have not a single reason to believe they exist… and i can assure you that if they were of any use to calm down people like god is, people would believe in the tooth fairy and in trolls…
There is some rules in science, we do not claim the existance of something if we have no reason to. Note that i never said we cannot believe in something that is not proven, for exemple Telepathy. The problem is that everywhere God is; in the creation of the universe, in the creation of humanity (et cetera), there is a logical, rational explanaition. But often people choose easy answer, even more if the answer is as golden as god, i mean, living an illusion with god give you so much hope, eternal life, eternal joy, no need to think if something is wrong; god say it for you.
So… i cannot be 100% sure god doest not exist, that would not be rational, but i believe that he is as probable as the tooth fairy…
By law Australia has to accept any religion where over 10,000 people as it during a census. I believe this means federal funding )
@Deviant:Scripter:
You can’t prove that God doesn’t exist…any more than I can prove that he does. So don’t be so sure of yourself.
ta ta ta…
You can’t prove the tooth fairy does not exist
You can’t prove Odin does not exist
You can’t prove Kami does not exist
You can’t prove Trolls does not existBut, i image you do not believe in the tooth fairy, you do not believe in odin and you do not believe in Kami… Why ? Because you have not a single reason to believe they exist… and i can assure you that if they were of any use to calm down people like god is, people would believe in the tooth fairy and in trolls…
There is some rules in science, we do not claim the existance of something if we have no reason to. Note that i never said we cannot believe in something that is not proven, for exemple Telepathy. The problem is that everywhere God is; in the creation of the universe, in the creation of humanity (et cetera), there is a logical, rational explanaition. But often people choose easy answer, even more if the answer is as golden as god, i mean, living an illusion with god give you so much hope, eternal life, eternal joy, no need to think if something is wrong; god say it for you.
So… i cannot be 100% sure god doest not exist, that would not be rational, but i believe that he is as probable as the tooth fairy…
One can’t be sure that I didn’t wake up this moring with a horn in my head.
However, from our understanding of SCIENCE, everyone knows that I did not wake up this morning with a horn.
I can’t prove God exists, but from my understanding of/in science,
I belive he/she does not.
I wouldn’t expect you to Mr. Ghoul.
Somehow you don’t strike me as that type of person. :wink:
How would your understanding of science convince you that God does not exist?
Ghoul regularly sprouts horns from his head.
i don’t know WHO he’s trying to fool . . . .
I think the time has come for the final battle between theism and atheism. Lets hope it will be a good one…
I think the time has come for the final battle between theism and atheism. Lets hope it will be a good one…
The GASF will win ! (German Atheist Scientific Force)
Oh I thought it meant German Atheist Scientific Fools.
Ha, I wouldn’t know about that…
I was just joking FinsterniS, don’t take it personally.
I’ve discovered in my life that EVERY argument can be countered, every evidence can be denied; except for ONE. If Finsternis doesn’t believe certain things that I say, its his prerogative. What NO ONE can deny of me is this: JESUS, GOD; BLIND, FOOLISH FAITH, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED WHO I AM. I NO LONGER SWEAR. I CHOOSE TO LOVE. I FORGIVE, EVEN WHEN IT IS HARD.
(and none of these things come from me… you would know this as fact if you knew me before I believed in Christ!)
