Kamikaze Zone, Aircraft carrier movements

Thank you very much Panther. This clarifies the question.

@genken said in Can Germany have more than 2 aircraft carriers in play:

I have searched for this on the forums and cannot find a reference to it. In the setup for Germany there are 2 pieces for aircraft carriers. I am axis and I started an Africa Korps movement but US entered the war in turn 1. Now I will need 2 carriers to guard the med in SZ 91 but I also want to place a carrier in SZ 113 to counter a possible Russian attack formulated by my cunning opponent. I can use a plastic chip in SZ 91. Is it permissible in the rules for Germany to have 3 carriers in play?

Why do you think that you need CV’s to protect the Med.?
I am curious, wouldn’t Bmbrs doing the same Job and give you more flexibility?
So now you spent 48 ipcs for three CV’s and 32 are lost compared to 48 = 4 Bmbrs plus your Ftr’s and the Allies player would have had to think about it sailing to Gibraltar…just my thoughts…

The answer is:

No, CUS is not connected to Ontario

Yes, CUS is connected to A/S/M

The lake does block movement, but according to the FAQ CUS and A/S/M are adjacent. They actually updates the map in the 2nd edition print run in which they added a border between CUS and A/S/M. See for your self here

Thanks we have the old rule book, that’s much clearer

Yes, Carriers and aircraft move independently, but the rulebook just states, that warships may not move …! It states nowhere, that aircraft can’t move to any seazone. They are not allowed to land on any allied terretorry or aircraftcarrier, but they can of course fly ther and if there is a legal landing spot, land there. The planes are not restricted to not move into the atlantic, they (in most cases) can’t land and therefore can’t stay there.

@aa:

k so were at a stand still german forces went into sea zone 112 first round and as russisa i want to combine my fleet there. first of all is this possible? were not at war. and if it is possible if the uk attacks that german fleet does the russia fleet have to defend? any rules on this would be very helpful

As long as nations are not at war with each other, they may move through and/or occupy the same seazones.  And it is ALWAYS allowed to place units in seazones, even if they are occupied by enemy powers.

If the UK attacks the German fleet, the Russians would never defend under any circumstances.  They’re neutral for one, but they’re also an Allied power.  They’re ignored.  Even if they were at war with Germany and in that seazone, they would NEVER be involed in the battle as combined attacks are not permitted.

@eudemonist:

Well, yeah, that works too, I suppose…kinda long to write on the back of my hand, though.

well, to write on the back of your hand -

Planes are ALWAYS in the air (unless they’re friendly cargo).

If you work in concepts of “take off” and “landing” you just get confusion about how the aircraft are defending (ineffectually) with a carrier in a battle against a just subs.  How would they know to take off?

Simply:  They were already in the air.  They’re always in the air.  Unless they’re friendly cargo.

Or best, just ignore the concepts of “take off”, “landing”, “in the air” and think:

If you can move any unit (if it’s not yours, you can’t move it: it’s cargo), it moves independently and uses its own movement points.

We were talking about if it CAN happen, not if it is a good idea or likely to happen