Vichy France Houserule

@Nuts

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@crockett36
This seems interesting. I’ll try it out.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39300/free-india/1

G40 France Strikes Back

This is a rule for our G40 mode that we are testing, in order to make France a little more relevant in the game, but we think any one can use it .

The Rule:

1- Once Paris is taken by the axis, the treasure of France passes to the enemy, as in OOB rules.
2- Automatically, the de facto capital of France is London, France will be able to add new IPC at the end of its turn, as any nation does.
Note: There is no Vichy vs Free France dynamic. France is a single entity, and it maintains the mechanics of the game simple, and without requiring the purchase or painting of new pieces.
3- France can buy and place infantry in any original territory on the map.
4- France can buy equipment in London, and place it right there, land, sea, air; but, cannot place new infantry in London. France can buy technology dice, ports and airports, for its original territories
5-France cannot produce units in industrial complexes that captures from the enemy, in this case the complexes will take full damage. France cannot buy industrial complexes.
Note: in the territory of France, the same applies, unless France or the allies take parís.
6- If parís is free, it merges into the capital of France again, France will return to the rules of OOB.
7- If Paris is retaken, a second time, the money passes to the conqueror (subsequent reconquests will have the same dynamics). And the capital of France will pass London again, unless it is taken by the enemy.
8-If London is taken by the enemy, and is the de facto capital of France, the IPCs of the two are delivered to the conqueror.

Balance: we have found that in some occasions Italy will have more pressure in North Africa. To counter this, we believe that this rule for Italy should be used to.

Italy Lean-lease: During WW2, Germany sold or licensed equipment to its allies, especially Italy.
1- During its non-combat face, Germany can send to the north of Italy any air unit or ground machines (except infantry) for sale. A maximum of 2 per round.
2- Italy in its face of purchases can buy at half price, the German units on loan. The money is delivered to Germany.
Units are immediately replaced by Italian equivalents for immediate use.

Restrictions: Infantry and ships cannot be sold. Berlin must be in the hands of the axis, northern Italy must be in control of Italy.
Note: If Rome falls, this rule still works, if italy had warbonus tec. In this case, dice need to by the number to pay.

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See the current tested rules of our mod, here:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/33074/g40-historial-v1-1?lang=es&page=1

Our videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRZntU00ooZQX6KTb3gbKgg

Some good ideas here.  This got me to thinking… if someone really wanted to play France as a country, buy units, etc.; then you could play it this way:

French player starts out with the Allies, but once Germany takes the capital, they play with the Axis.  The capital and all territories remain in French hands and they still retain their income and build on their factories.  When/if the Allies liberate Paris, the French player then joins the Allies.  Each time Paris in taken, any French units in territories occupied by other nations remain Allied and usable by that nation (like the French fighter and soldiers in England and boats in the same territory as the British).  If the Allies take Paris, any French units with German/Italian/Japanese combat units in Russia/Germany/the water/wherever are usable by that nation.  The rules are mirrored for if the Allies take Paris: France retains control of their income and all their territories that they control and simply fights with the Allies.

Aspects of this would actually be similar to how it was in the war.  Although you didn’t have stacks of French soldiers defending Normandy from Allied invasion (though some French soldiers fought for the Axis), you also didn’t have the French Mediterranean fleet, Morocco, and southern France fighting against the Axis after France capitulated.

I’m not sure if this might even be balanced or whether it might swing to Allies or Axis.  The push towards Russia would be hampered as some units would need to come all the way from France and those units would attack out of turn from Germany, but on the other hand the Axis would have more total income and a D-Day invasion would be much harder.

We always play with all the Axis playing at once and all the Allies playing at once, so that would likely give the Axis an advantage, but you could compensate by giving the Allies more money.

As an optional rule, you could allow the Japanese player to conquer French Indo-China (just as in the war and just to spice things up) or leave for the French player (maybe France could build a factory there?).  This decision could be strategic by the Japanese player: allowing money to flow where it’s most needed, or it could be cordial: gentlemanly to leave it to your new co-belligerant, or it could be playfully poking fun: haha, it’s mine and you can’t do anything about it.  It might make the Japanese player less ‘lonely’ to have some interaction with their co-belligerants.

The French player might have some disconnection with who wins (or might slightly favor Axis since that’s where their reputation as a skilled player is on the line), but on the other hand, it might be a happy ending to be on the winning side no matter which side won the game.  Another plus is that for a Europe only game, the sides would be an even 3 on 3 for the nations for most of the game and it might allow you to have a 6th player on the Europe only board.

After Vichy France is activated, Germany may occupy Southern France at any time. The only downside is that occupation of Southern France after the Armistice results in the disbandment of all Vichy French units on the board. While you do have to leave Southern France alone on the first turn, the income from that territory is often convoy-blockaded by the 93 sz fleet when it is taken on Germany’s first turn. So really the cost of Vichy France, in that regard, is negligible.

Hello there.  I’ve really enjoyed reading up on those these rules and I’m sure I’ll have fun implementing them as well.  A couple questions though.  With the Free French I read that they’ll be implementing the “China mechanism” where I get no industrial complexes are used.  My question is “does that mean they can only place infantry and artillery?”  Also i assume that Germany can collect tribute IPC’s from ANY Vichy territory with German units occupying it.  Thanks for any clarifications.

Unfortunately, the French were not willing to advance beyond the range of the guns in the Maginot line.

Not really. French army enter in the Saar region in the middle of September and stay there till the end of October and they decide to withdraw behind the Maginot line.( French army lost 263 men and Germany 198…)

AL.