What if G1 takes egypt without losses?

@Varn:

@carsickness:

Now, I realize that most G1 strats say that taking Egypt is a must.

And this.

I’m seeing more and more G1 turns assume that they are going to get Egypt. So they start to chimp out on it and attack with the bare minimum. A hold in Egypt is fairly common against greedy Germans. An IC on Egypt is punishment for their greed.

IF< Egypt holds on G1 I feel that putting an IC not only punishes their greed but focuses future German attacks on it…which relieves some pressure on R3-4. 15 UK IPC to focus Germany off of Russia is worth it IMHO.

Even if it is taken on G2, a US2-3 can take it back over. It works well as bait. And if Germany doesn’t take it, then UK has a nice foot on the ground.

Varn, you’re turning into a guru/master.  I’ve followed your games with Flip, you remind me of the borg with your ability to adapt, well done.  Hopefully once the drywall dust and paint settles from the home renovation and the insurance company has their fill with sending me to be poked and prodded by doctors I will get on tripleA and face your wrath!  Merry Christmas!

Most people would do it regardless if Ukraine fell or not, but if Ukraine’s FTR is still alive, use the BB to take out the DD, and take the bomber, Ukraine FTR, Libya units and two from Italy.  I don’t have my board, but I think its a tank/inf from Libya, and an inf/tank from Italy, so you have 2(1s), 3(3s), 1(4) vs and inf/tank/FTR (2/3/4)? This is why they may also put the Russian FTR in Egypt to give it that extra 4.  If you lost the FTR in Ukraine AND the Russian FTR is in Egypt, forget about Egypt G1.  Focus on destroying the CA and even the DD (BB for the CA, FTR/Bomber for the DD).  Load up in Libya on G1. The UK FTR and Russian FTR should retreat.

Be wary of one thing.  In an attempt to gain supreme dominance in the Atlantic, I get into a game of toying with the Russians.  Instead of loading my fronts, I actually pull back (I think in E.Europe), and offer bait to the Russians and see if they will land grab all the territories.  This sucks at first because it slows down Germany economy and gives the Russians money, but by spreading thin their lines, you can pour all your troops into one direction (north via Karelia/Archangel or south via Ukrain/Caucus) while Japan comes from behind via China and/or India.

It’s a trial an error thing.

@Mallery29:

E.Europe as the territory, not as a whole

Let me rephrase: Allies control E. Europe, they control the entire Eastern front and deny its income to Germany and secure it to themselves. Let Japan have Africa (and divert units away from Russia).

It will be hard to get afloat after you take a hit from both the soviaets AND the tommies, so massing lots of infantry and subs like you said, would probably be your best bet. Also try and salvage as much of the luftwaffe as possible, and station them an your border territories. Hey, I may be a noob, but I’ve had my fair share of bad luck with this game.

I see your point. Doing risky battles can make for a less interesting game. Still though, from a purely strategical viewpoint, it is the best move, and if I were to play in a tournament, I would probably use it most games. I would probably use it if R1 went really bad for Germany to try to turn it back around.  If I lost both battles as the allies, I wouldn’t quit yet, unless R1 went badly too. It might cause me to do a US Pacific strategy though. Remember last game we played. I lost both Mediterranean battles G1 and still won (by a fluke I admit, but I think I would have had a chance if you had diverted sufficient Russian troops to hold Karelia.

I played a game where Germany got to take West Indies and Brazil… and held it till i built and went after it… interesting game it worked well enough to force me to buy units to get those territs back which caused some delays

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