Whatever makes ´em happy…
The Existence of God
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Saints are people the “god” has picked to become kinda like Demi-Gods, I think. Christianity is a monotheist Religion.
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Nah, Catholicism is not polytheistic, Horten you silly rabbit. That is protestant propaganda. Holding up saints as the ideal of a good person is different than worshipping them as “gods.” An unusually ignorant statement.
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About Christianism; it is clearly monotheistic. There is one god.
BTW You did’nt answer me YB.
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Christians themselves can’t even agree.
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:lol:
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Christians themselves can’t even agree.
Neither can evolutionists. Strange thing is that evolution is based on “hard, undeniable evidence.”
Nothing strange, evolution is based on undeniable evidence, they are just looking how it happen.
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well, they look at the “evidence”, sift through it, and ask “what might cause all of this to happen”? They then issue a series of “best guesses” - hypotheses, if you will, that is reiterated so often as to become considered fact. Certainly there is “evidence” - all over the place. The question is what is it evidence of? Certainly it might be applied to evolution, there is little question that it seems to fit. One might suggest the same of intelligent design however, as opposed to a random series of mutations. I’d say the evidence is just about as hard in either case.
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Certainly there is “evidence” - all over the place. The question is what is it evidence of?
evidence of evolution, evidence the young earth creationist are stuck in time. If we look at bacteria; they breed faster than us and they change faster too, virus change very fast, they evolve. Also the dinosaur are a very great pain to those who believe the earth was created 10 000 years ago… (note that their explication is very funny).
If you believe evolution occur, but with the help of god, well that’s a little more coherent, but there is a logico-empirical problem in the reasonning, also a good exemple of the incapacities of the human mind to conceive that intelligence is not the only designer. And the “evey design need designer” argument can be refute by every design we understand… a mountain, a star, a snowflake… The earth itself.
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If you believe evolution occur, but with the help of god, well that’s a little more coherent, but there is a logico-empirical problem in the reasonning, also a good exemple of the incapacities of the human mind to conceive that intelligence is not the only designer. And the “evey design need designer” argument can be refute by every design we understand… a mountain, a star, a snowflake… The earth itself.
I prefer the “every design MAY HAVE a designer”. For the mountain and snowflake, i believe it’s entirely possible (and likely) that the laws that governed their creation were set forth circa creation. The same might apply to the star, the galaxy, etc. for the sun is a very handy star - the appropriate amount of radiation eminates from it in order to support life without killing it. Very lucky we are to have that star, indeed. Mind you, if we didn’t have it, then luck would not be a factor.
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Everything design we understand have no designer. Also for Mountain and snowflake, i really don’t understand the need of a designer, you are adding the concept just because it caution your believe, there is no reason to believe that.
About the “sun is at the right place” argument, if it where not at the right place, we would’nt be there to question how it was at the right place, i mean if you roll 10 time a dice with 6 face and you chosse that you will have a baby only if you get 10 time 6, then you roll. There is only 1/(6^10) chance you wil have a baby, if you don,t get 10 time 6, you won’t have a baby so he won’t question anything.
Also if you take all suns and all planet, the probability there is planet at the right place is high, also maybe there is a physical explanation why there is a planet at this place, and if not; there is a probabilictic explanation, so i don,t see anything special in it.
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The Evolutionary Theory is incomplete for 3 reasons.
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The fact that the Fossil Record is incomplete, due to the nature of the record your going to have a lot of holes in the record.
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Time. Its barely been over 100 years since the theory of Evolution was concieved by Darwin.
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Religious Conservatism. People cannot accept the truth.
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My Veiw on Religeon is kinda like this. Think of Life as an Algebraic expression. Science would be like Numbers that weve figured out alrdy and Religeon is like the Variable. in short that is my veiw. and i do not Believe in God. i think it is possible for the SuperNAtural to Exist but i do not think it is involved with god Cus God isnt Real :)
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Well, it’s about time I jump in here. YB - you get an “A” for time and effort.
Is our mere existence prove enough for God? We might be treading lightly here. It’s still an assumption based on faith. The one of many ultimate questions unanswerable and unprovable accredited to a diety.
There is no question that religion has helped in the creation of laws/moral codes/ethics. Is this proof of God? They are creations of the faithful humans who choose to improve society/civilization. However, the early endorsed moral codes were far from complete. Slavery is a good example. First it was shown to be uneconomical in certain areas, then later, shown to be immoral. This wasn’t until the 19th century! Some morals…
We view the Universe from our little planet with our limited science and technology. Anyone with the answers is suffering from misguided arrogance. Many answers to the Universe will remain outside human comprehension. Our increasing science will help us understand more and more over time, but the ultimate questions will still elude us.
Humans have created their view of the Universe. They have also throughout history, created their gods…
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:lol:
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There is no question that religion has helped in the creation of laws/moral codes/ethics.
Yea… a black and white moral code base on “revelation”… It help a lot…
by the way i was sarcastic…
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There is no question that religion has helped in the creation of laws/moral codes/ethics.
Yea… a black and white moral code base on “revelation”… It help a lot…
by the way i was sarcastic…
no need to be sarcastic. It actually has helped many people and societies throughout time find a moral ground upon which to base their code, be it Jewish law, Athenian law, or even the Christian code that is held in some societies. Just because you see little use for it or any relevence, it is not necessary to knock the ways and beliefs of billions of people over hundreds of generations because Nietzsche said something quotable.
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Congratulation ! You are the first i know from america who spell Nietzsche the rigth way. By the way, Nietzsche is not the only one who consider stupid the whole concept of “good” and “evil”, the only arguments about the whole concept are;
A; it’s in the Bible… woooooo pretty convincing
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B; “Common sence”, in that case a good excuse to be superficial.Also his view on the judeo-christian ideololy in general was pretty accurate…
But even if he influence me a lot, i don’t consider myself a Nietzschean, i am a “me”, and i don’t think Nietzsche would be really happy to see all these Nietzschean…
Become what you are…
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“Congratulation ! You are the first i know from america who spell Nietzsche the rigth way.”
I problem isn’t spelling “Nietzsche” but pronouncing it, very tough for even I to do.
That Nietzsche – pretty clever guy, I’ll give him that much at least. :wink:
“Woman was God’s second mistake.”
- Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)
“Plato was a bore.”
- Friedrich Nietzsche
“Nietzsche was stupid and abnormal.”
- Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910)
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Congratulation ! You are the first i know from america who spell Nietzsche the rigth way. By the way, Nietzsche is not the only one who consider stupid the whole concept of “good” and “evil”, the only arguments about the whole concept are;
A; it’s in the Bible… woooooo pretty convincing
and…
B; “Common sence”, in that case a good excuse to be superficial.Also his view on the judeo-christian ideololy in general was pretty accurate…
But even if he influence me a lot, i don’t consider myself a Nietzschean, i am a “me”, and i don’t think Nietzsche would be really happy to see all these Nietzschean…
Become what you are…
Aactually, CC is Canadian :lol:
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i said “from America”, from the continent, not the country…
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