• dice, tech, NOs, and a small bid to allies or not.

    Assumptions:

    Germany is playing an aggressive anti-Russia and anti-Uk strat on G1.

    Most of the Atlantic Uk navy gone on G1 (probably only the dest+trans combo near Canada left)

    Germany has moved east, and taken three of the territories necessary for achieving its NO.

    Germany has attacked Egypt or not (with the goal of “softening up” for Italy)

    Germany has made a ground unit buy. 9 inf and an art or something close to it - the idea being to follow up with another round of mostly inf, to be followed by tanks. I often buy an AA gun instead of two of the inf.

    Germany’s basic goals being to defend france and achieve NOs while waiting to be rescued by Japan.

    Japan wastes no time in moving as fast as possible toward India

    Japan takes the free money south pacific islands, destroys the UK India navy, destroys the the China fighter, takes Kwangtung and Phillipines. and sets up maximally for India on J2.

    Japan builds a factory for FIC.

    Japan collects 45 ipcs.

    Japan’s short term goals are to take India down as fast as possible, and to build two more factories (India and Dutch East Indies).

    Italy’s goal is simialr to Germany. Mostly to achieve NOs when possible, and primarily to play against Russia, and make it uncomfortable for the Russian player to defend routes into the motherland with only one inf (the “can opener” threat). A second transport (if defendable) is often a great buy.

    ************ i consider above to be a pretty standard way of playing axis ***********

    I have had a great deal of success with the above plan as axis. Japan players who dilly daddle and fail to move as fast as possible against Russia invite a successful KGF. But those Japan players who arrive in Persia on J3 will make the allies wish they built in the pacific with USA.

    USA strat involves two complete buys in The Pacific, moving both bombers to UK (to bomb germany) and often moving the east USA troops to The Pacific as well. Japan cannot ignore this and will be forced to buy navy units it really wish it hadn’t had to. The IPCs USA invests in The Pacific will be immediately felt, as Japan will not be maximally attacking Russia with tanks, guys and factories, and instead buying destroyers and what have you.

    America will then move its fleet on USA three (or earlier if japan did not respond properly) depending on how much navy japan built. Either directly to the Caroline Islands if Japan can’t simply blow them up, or to the Solomons if Japan navy is too large, to threaten multiple spots.

    On Usa three, America starts its standard North Africa/ Europe build and strat.

    Russia buys a bomber for Caucuses and plans to use to blow up the Japanese transport off of the East Indies.

    Russia masses 7 inf in Buryatia with the aim of moving into Manchuria whenever it is convenient.

    Above are the two main ‘anti-Japan’ investments made by Russia, and will not be followed up, as Germany will be immediately felt.

    UK plays a standard game against Germany, and invests nothing in holding India (no factory, etc.)


  • this idea of pressuring Japan can hold true if your basic premise of the Axis German game plan holds true (non-agressive)

    If Germany buys <a majority=“” of=“”>tanks on G1, then the allies may not have enough time to hold off Germany to wait the few rounds until USAs can help in Europe.  Recall that Germany can be very agressive against Russia, willing to trade tanks for Inf because they can afford it, as well as making Russia attack with the weakest attacking piece.

    USA is the most difficult player to control in AA50.  It’s a fine balance of placing buys in the Pacific/Atlantic that must be achieved.</a>


  • @axis_roll:

    If Germany buys <a majority=“” of=“”>tanks on G1,</a>

    <a majority=“” of=“”>is a german tank buy your standard german opening? i would be interested in having a crack at defeating it with, say, a 6-8 bid with allies.</a>

  • '16 '15 '10

    A 2 trn buy is a common purchase J1.  And in this case, a Russian stack in Manchuria is potentially a serious blunder.

    If Japan builds FIC J1, USA Pacific offensive and/or an India IC are more tempting.  Granted, FIC is useful for Japan’s naval defense, but its also a potential liability.  Its one more spot Japan will have to defend and the factory is quite useful to the Allies if captured.


  • @Zhukov44:

    A 2 trn buy is a common purchase J1.  And in this case, a Russian stack in Manchuria is potentially a serious blunder.  So in that sense it’s important to adapt to what is happening.

    If Japan builds FIC J1, USA Pacific offensive and/or an India IC are more tempting.  Granted, FIC is useful for Japan’s naval defense, but its also a potential liability in that its one more spot Japan will have to defend and the factory is quite useful to the Allies if captured.

    But FIC is only 2 spaces away from japan, so it is easy to keep the IC safe. And hard for the allies to try and capture it (usually this end in - at best - trasing Birma for a long time, and even if the alles can break through, it is very hard to hold FIC, even with an india IC (where max. 3 units can spawn), FIC only 2, but 2 units from Japan are easily transported there. And often there is still a large japanese airforce around.


  • Hi all,

    I think for the Russians, killling japanese units is more important initially than advancing or holding low value territories. For this reason I would think a small withdrawal to draw jap forces into russia then some sort of counter attack around t3 is a better idea. Also I would avoid any coastal territory, as russia, due to Japans overwhelming naval superiority.

    USA strat involves two complete buys in The Pacific, moving both bombers to UK (to bomb germany) and often moving the east USA troops to The Pacific as well. Japan cannot ignore this and will be forced to buy navy units it really wish it hadn’t had to

    Japan may not be forced to buy naval as you suggest. A force of bombers + land based fighters + starting naval forces should be enough to make America pay dearly for any premature advances. At most you will probably distract air cover from Japan’s three spearheads. these being northern Russia, China, Middle east.  Japan can make up for the loss of air with tank builds from mainland factories from about t3 onwards anyway.

    The question is does the distraction to Japan’s Westward drive warrant the diversion of forces from combatting GER and ITA. Without US support GER/ITA will probably have mopped up many African territories so by the time US forces arrive (t5-6) you will be looking at a combined GER/ITA of over 70.


  • @rockrobinoff:

    @axis_roll:

    If Germany buys <a majority=“” of=“”>tanks on G1,</a>

    <a majority=“” of=“”>is a german tank buy your standard german opening? i would be interested in having a crack at defeating it with, say, a 6-8 bid with allies.</a>

    <a majority=“” of=“”>Your premise was one of a small bid.  I would consider that to be 1-2 IPCs, not units.  What do you consider a small bid?  6 to 8?

    Two allied units, especially against the already balanced European theatre, has a big impact on G1 opening (and buy).

    A 6-8 bid for the allies is acceptable only if it was an asian / pacific bid</a>


  • Which side needs a bid in this game?


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    Which side needs a bid in this game?

    According to many/most of the 1941 league games, the allies seem to need a bid.


  • @axis_roll:

    A 6-8 bid for the allies is acceptable only if it was an asian / pacific bid

    I’d agree to a 6 bid, units east of transjordan and south of caucasas.


  • How about no bid with the Dardanelles closed for business?

  • '16 '15 '10

    Dard closed seems to be a small advantage for Allies, but not quite enough to balance the game imo.  It’s only an advantage as long as the Med fleet is alive, but late game it could even hurt the Allies.

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