@Flashman said in Where WOTC got the idea for this game…:

Surely Axis and Allies and Aliens would have been more interesting, with the humans gradually adapting alien tech and reluctantly co-operating against them but with a view to ultimate victory.

And I’ve got zombies already; I want little green aliens with ray guns.

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&q=Worldwar:+In+the+Balance&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgFuLQz9U3SDIoSFPiBLHSjEwN87SkspOt9JPy87P1E0tLMvKLrEDsYoX8vJxKAOnTGj4zAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwje7dWnqvfeAhUIKnwKHXqzClsQgOQBMBR6BAgMEH4&biw=320&bih=523

Harry Turtledove is an author who writes alternative history books. I enjoyed this one. You may already know about him though.

@BananeDC

Zombies are roughly the same size as infantry. A little bigger wouldn’t hurt and might look better.
Europe is the only area where space is tight, but that is true of all A&A games.

@taamvan Thanks for the write up. I am getting mine for my birthday (4 weeks away), so is good to hear your thoughts on it.

@Caesar:

You can’t liberate and then attack the same zombie territory.

What do you want to say?

It is technically impossible to do that during the same turn:
Combat ends in step 8 and the territory is liberated in step 9 of the General Combat Sequence.
You never liberate territories during combat steps 3-8.

Of course you may attack zombies present in the liberated territory during the next turn.

Zombies makes it much easier for Sea Lion, it’s not a cake walk, but more doable. Because of the position of UK ships against Germany and because Germany goes before UK, Germany can effectively destroy UK’s navy. It also takes US two turns to reach London while Germany can do it in one and UK only produces 4 units against Germany’s 7 with 5 of that being on Germany itself. If Germany is able to wall zombies against USSR, it makes Germany using Sea Lion more doable.

The placement of allied ships makes it easy for Germany to sink Home Fleet and UK can produce 4 units against Germany’s 7.

Here’s a Youtube video with full details on A&A: Zombies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1kQkVvgViA

The Rulebook had some errors in it in the initial print run, so they were corrected in later print runs.  The incorrect silhouettes were one of those errors.

Send 1 infantry into combat.

@zooooma:

Welcome back, friend!

Thanks, zoooma….
It all seems so  long ago…
( https://web.archive.org/web/20011214160853/http://www.wargamer.com:80/axisandallies/ )

Maybe time for a thread about the ‘good old days’ of Axis and Allies and boardgaming in general on the internet :)
Sorry to disrupt this AAZ forum but: thanks to wargamer.com, thanks to GeoCities (where I started), thanks to the various clubs, thanks to Peter Goudswaard (who?), thanks to David Jensen… Thanks to everyone older than me who kept the ‘brand’, the concept of Axis and Allies alive in the ‘dark’ 80s and 90s. When we could only dream about so many new games…
OK, I will stop NOW :)

@taamvan:

… but remains … to be … seen

And depending on the roll results, have to kill the remains again…  :-P

-Midnight_Reaper

@taamvan:

I took the parenthetical to mean that enemy units dont fire back at the battleship, not that they don’t get to fire back at the other units in combat.   Seems unclear, though first striking bombardments would go against the existing editions.

Agreed. All in all this issue needs a clarification from AH. The clause is mysterious as it refers to an “opening fire step” that does not exist either.
Stay tuned!

I have added the issue to the Q+A Thread

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/1234065

@djensen:

I’m not censoring anything. If you have subjective complaints, put them all here in this thread. If you have constructive criticism, start a new thread.

Again, when the newbies arrive to learn more about AAZ and other A&A games, I want them to see a welcoming community. Seeing a bunch of posts of people hating on zombies, might turn people away.

You got some strong points here, and I want to change my stand.

As an FYI, earliar statements on the OOB rules having an individual winner in case of apocalypse turned out to be wrong.  It is the “side” that wins in that case.  Having an individual winner would be a tournament house rule.

@Midnight_Reaper:

@Caesar:

So in order for me to explain the situation, you have to already understand how to play zombies and this didn’t cross my mind to ask the developers because I just encountered it now.

So here is the situation: Zombies are co existing with Japanese troops, Germany wants to attack the Zombies in Japanese territories. So when Zombies roll for their attack, Germany being the attacker can only be attacked if the Zombie rolls an “A”. What in this situation makes Japanese troopers? I don’t have an answer for this. What I told my buddy and we agreed with is that because Japan is not the aggressor, that technically makes them the defender so Zombies would have to roll a “D” to attack them. However, officially by rule, I am not sure how to actually treat this. I am 99% sure Japanese soldiers can’t attack the zombies with Germany so this is the only way I can see this working.

How would this work if the Germans were attacking into a British-held territory with Zombies in it? It would work like that, only you obviously restrict your hits to the Zombies instead of your fellow-Axis-power Japanese troops. So, from what I understand, the Zombies would roll A to hit the Germans and D to hit the Japanese. Since it’s the German turn, the Japanese troops just kind of hang out until their turn. At which point, if the Japanese attacked the Zombies in their territory with the Germans present, when the Zombies make their roll an A would hit the Japanese (who are doing the attacking at this point) and a D would hit the Germans (who are likewise hanging out while the Japanese troops do their thing).

Make sense?

-Midnight_Reaper

If you engage a territory owned by your enemy, you have to attack the territory. Fortunately because of the dice, you are also attacking zombies.

It’s a great idea, and you can do all sorts of goofy stuff in a 1962 setting including an alien invasion event that could force the US and USSR to work together. Plus why not cash in on the new Red Scare consuming the US’s news cycle?

Oh you mean human wave attacks that never happened in real life?

No, I took everything that could hit Egypt on G1 and the battle destroyed UK and only tank survived with four zombies so UK carded the zombies into near by territories and mopped it up with UK and US forces. Each turn you draw a card that puts one zombie in a random territory and a perk that can help or hurt you.

The greatest thing about zombies is that zombine is a good enough of an X force that you can have the “perfect” plan and it goes right out the window.

@Narvik:

@taamvan:

The chainsaw tank is just for your imagination, and for future HBG like profiteers who will need to actually create these models.

A multi-part and detailed Scandinavian war to replace 3 entire countries being represented by one square is a reality.

I know you are just joking, but I think you should be a better man than bringing our differencies from the Polar Express thread into the Zombie zone. I would never go that low on you, because I got self respect. In fact, I am as we speak in the process of designing a Scandinavian game based on A&A BotB, only with terrain. Different units will have specific movement range, and also different terrain will effect movement. Like motorized units have unlimited spaces of movement if they travel by roads, but cant move into mountain terrain. Norwegian ski-troops move 3 spaces when in snow, German mountain troops move 2 spaces in snow, they used snowshoes and not skis, but they can climb and cross mountain ranges. Regular British, French, Polish and Swedish infantry only move 1. Artillery work by shelling adjacent spaces, not charging like they were some kind of infantry. Tanks absorb two hits, etc etc, lots of new rules but I like to keep it KISS. Aircrafts will have its own specific combat phase, with dog-fights and carpet bombing, and not like some kind of advanced infantry like they are in the current A&A games. Enough. Buy my game when its ready. Then we can talk. Today zombies are the topic. Respect that !!! Man.

Gees another game I got to buy ? Well I guess so. Anything as close to historic.  8-)