Geoff:

Since you seem like a nice guy who likes to debate, I will take it upon myself to write up a rebuttal as it were. It will probably be Wed or Thur, as that is my weekend.

Just out of curiosity I would like to pose this question: If I were to point out flaws in your argument, why would that not matter? Obviously reasons are important to you, or your post would have been something like ‘Hi, I’m Geoff and God says gay men are sinners bye’. :wink:

You seem to try to justify your beliefs with more than just ‘I feel this way’
and it honestly makes me quite sad that someone could recognize a false belief (or support for such) and not care. Not that any of yours are false at this point, we are still being hypothetical. =p

That said, here’s hoping I open your eyes or you open mine.

Guerrilla Guy: I’m not sure if you were joking or not, but I would have no problems abolishing marriage. 8)

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I’m not sure what you mean by dogma, but the dogma I know has no negative connotations. I’m just describing what he admitted to.

Authoritative tenet. Doctrine proclaimed by the church. Call it what you will. He said himself it comes mainly from the heart, and not the head.

You gain no points here, sir. I have much better ways to reduce and devalue someone than that.

:wink:

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Morning Geoff. Personally, I’m a fan of MMORPGS, which is really neither of your choices. =p

My favorite game of all time would be Starcraft.

I’m not sure if it’s how the games are made now, or if i’m just getting older and slower, but I agree RTS’s seem to be getting faster and more complicated. So I guess I’m leaning towards turn-based at this point, as in HOMM, which is another favorite. I need time to think!

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Bruce Campbell as Elvis.

Ossie Davis as JFK.

Im already LMAO!

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Yummy, lesbians! What channel was that on? :lol:

Heartfelt and sincere, I can appreciate that. Part of me is frothing to write up a reply - I see quite a few contradictions/fallacies in your reasoning.

The other part of me thinks it will be a waste of time, and that was a long post. :wink:

If this opinion of yours was not so concretely grounded in religious dogma so as to be unassailible, I might give it a shot. As it stands, I think I would just be wasting our time.

So…

Good luck, sir!

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I can’t believe I’ve never seen this one. When did it come out?

Bruce is teh shiznit!

King Arthur: Are all men from the future loud mouth braggarts?

Ash: Nope, just me baby. Just me.

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If Tanguay returns, my money is on Colorado.

If not, it’s my Wings all the way!

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With a divorce rate reaching (or even surpassing) 50% in the US, i’d say heterosexuals have ‘taken away from the seriousness and respect that comes with the historical tradition of marriage’ well enough on their own.

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So then everyone who has ever acted upon lust is not in Heaven?

And why is it not possible to have a sinless human being?

It seems difficult, to be sure. But not impossible. After all, wasn’t Jesus -

Never mind.

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Well, I can see we aren’t going get get very far with this one. =p

This: ‘Hourly i want to have sex with other women.’

Is a sin, according to mainstream Christian belief. Acting on it is also a sin. If you desire a woman/man, are not married to them, and have sex with them, you have committed at the very least 2 sins. Probably more.

I didn’t make it up, I dont agree with it, I don’t believe it. But the message cannot be more clear.

The only way I can see one being a non-sinning homosexual, is if the man somehow knew he was gay, without ever having looked at another man and feeling desire for him. Is that even possible?

Either way, I understand the point you are trying to make. I can understand you not liking the ‘act’, and still being able to feel sympathy (or whatever) for the guy, especially if you view it as genetically driven.

The problem is, this is not the church of CC. I wish it were.

Your view and the Christian God’s are not the same on this issue.

Which bring us back to the crux of the discussion. I wont reiterate it, as it doesn’t seem anyone wants to answer my original question.

I_killed_mufasa:

What evidence do you have that shows lust is a lesser sin than adultery?

Janus1:

I didn’t hear that, it doesn’t sound right, and for the love of GOD I hope it isn’t true. You’d have to be able to turn sperm into an egg - if we can do that, Holy crap.

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