Yes, I agree…although the quote from page 32 just seems meaningless then. They might as well have written that subs can submerge after weapons development…not immediately after, but just sometime after. Additionally, the way triplea is programmed does not conflict with anything on page 16 in the section describing step 7. It’s just a matter of interpreting everything that happens within step 7.
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RE: Revised Submerge/Withdraw Order
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RE: Revised Submerge/Withdraw Order
Yes, I agree…although the quote from page 32 just seems meaningless then. They might as well have written that subs can submerge after weapons development…not immediately after, but just sometime after. Additionally, the way triplea is programmed does not conflict with anything on page 16 in the section describing step 7. It’s just a matter of interpreting everything that happens within step 7.
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RE: Revised Submerge/Withdraw Order
Look at page 32 of Revised rules in the sub section, where it states: " A submarine may submerge in combat after the attacker and defender have fired, regardless of what other units do." Attacker fire is step 4 of combat, defender fire is step 5, so subs submerge after these 2 steps. Step 6 is remove casualties, and step 7 is attacker retreats. Why would the rules on page 32 be written like this if subs were meant to submerge after the attacker decided on a retreat option? They could have easily written that submarines may submerge in combat after the attacker decides on their retreat option. Instead, they were very clear of when it occurs, after the attacker and defender have fired. Just applying basic logic seems to indicate that triplea is programmed correctly. Unless the game designers have acknowledged that page 32 is a typo or rule error, then I don’t think it can just be ignored.
And, in fact, one could just as easily argue that the attacker must first know if defending subs are submerging or not before they decide whether to continue the attack or retreat.