• @Omega:

    Split income could be :

    Anzac / UK / Canada ?

    Larry already said “NO CANADA”


  • Not as a separate power, but almost definitely a division within the U.K. My bet is that it at least has equal status in the global game to ANZAC. And also, if Canada has it’s own markers, you can bet that it will have its own pieces as well. You can’t have one w/o the other. Any ideas on what color they might be?


  • It wont have its own unique sculpts. They wont even use sculpts they already MADE for italy


  • @Flashman:

    England isn’t an island.

    We share it with THEM.

    No-one would have believed, in the first years of the 21st century, that English affairs were being watched from the barren wastelands of the North. No one could have dreamed that we were being scrutinized as someone with a microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few men even considered the possibility of life north of Berwick upon Tweed. And yet, across the Solway Firth, minds immeasurably better educated than ours regarded this England with envious eyes, and slowly, and surely, they drew their plans against us.

    LOL too funny!!   :-D
    Let’s just hope England isn’t pinning it’s hopes on Tom Cruise!

    #496


  • @The:

    And also, if Canada has it’s own markers, you can bet that it will have its own pieces as well.

    I doubt that they will.

    Perhaps, in the Global game (unlike the Pacific game), the Neutral US will be able to NCM into territories with the Cdn roundel or some other political situation function?
    Maybe that’s the only purpose of the unique Canadian map marking?

    #497

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    And also, if Canada has it’s own markers, you can bet that it will have its own pieces as well. You can’t have one w/o the other. Any ideas on what color they might be?

    the Dutch have their own markers too and they will not be represented as their power.  Canada will not have their own pieces.


  • @johnnymarr:

    the Dutch have their own markers too and they will not be represented as their power.

    it was just too darn difficult to sculpt their infantry wearing wooden shoes

    #499


  • @The:

    Not as a separate power, but almost definitely a division within the U.K. My bet is that it at least has equal status in the global game to ANZAC. And also, if Canada has it’s own markers, you can bet that it will have its own pieces as well. You can’t have one w/o the other. Any ideas on what color they might be?

    I see where you’re coming from but there’s no need for unique molds because Canada would be using the same equipment as the UK, as far as I know. If they’re a colour, I’d like to see a slightly darker tan/khaki keeping the UK power cohesive, looks-wise.

    I do see and like the idea of a divisional UK income; that does make sense. I’m just happy Canada will be represented/involved in the game in some meaningful way.


  • That is a great point of them putting a unique roundel there for the possibility of the US doing NCM as a neutral.  Kinda interesting the more you think about it and yes I can’t wait for this board to come out as well, been chomping at the bit to play this combiner board.


  • @Gharen:

    That is a great point of them putting a unique roundel there for the possibility of the US doing NCM as a neutral.  Kinda interesting the more you think about it and yes I can’t wait for this board to come out as well, been chomping at the bit to play this combiner board.

    You and everyone else.


  • @Gharen:

    That is a great point of them putting a unique roundel there for the possibility of the US doing NCM as a neutral.

    Well not THAT great of a point… after all it’s not permitted in AAP40 so it’s less likely that they’ll introduce it out of the blue in Europe or Global.

    But I’m still thinking it has some political effect… maybe Germany can occupy any UK territory without triggering a US DoW… except Canadian territories.  :?

    And personally, I’m not yet ready to ditch the idea of House Ruling a greater role for Canada… yes, yes it disperses production BUT there’s gotta be some balance as I think the house rule would also be permitting the UK to have the Energizer Battery Bunny Capitol that re-locates to the Dominion and keeps going, and going…

    #513


  • If you take money away from UK by giving it to others (Canada), then that will be the cause of UK’s impending failure.

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    @Brain:

    If you take money away from UK by giving it to others (Canada), then that will be the cause of UK’s impending failure.

    Crap BD, you better tell Larry quick before they release the game and it’s totally unwinnable for the allies!

    It shouldn’t come as a surprise to you guys that I like the idea of a forced build in Canada for the UK (or “split income” as Larry has stated).

    This idea is novel, historically accurate and strategically important. Perhaps too small to be its own power (and Canada followed UK policy in the war anyway) There should be some way to represent the fact that so much of British wartime production came from Canada and had to cross the Atlantic before it was of any use. My guess is that, armed with an airbase, Canada will be the main centre for production of aircraft for the UK. (as was the case in the war.) If you can build 3 planes in Canada and use your 10 build in the UK for land/naval units it seems Canada would become an asset for production freeing space to pump out loaded landing craft in the British isles.


  • I agree. The game is being skewed too much. Ideally, the game should be completely historically accurate, with only the # of Axis troops being changed so as to balance the game. There shouldn’t be this balance, and counter balance, and counter counter balance, and counter… till the game really isn’t world war two any more.


  • Basically adding Canada as a power is going to be a set back for the amount of turns it takes to get from Canada to UK in the amount of IPC’s taken away from UK and added to Canada, because it will take that many turns to transport the troops from Canada to UK where they would already be in the game as it is today.


  • Exactly. You are correct. This would not only be more realistic, it would also be the perfect modification needed to allow for Operation Sea Lion. This has never been possible before b/c the U.K. unrealistically and unfairly got all of those ipcs automatically on Britain (usually in the form of 8 infantry if it even looked like Germany was thinking about invading). This would change that.


  • Re-balancing the game with Canada added would take a lot of play-testing.


  • @Brain:

    Re-balancing the game with Canada added would take a lot of play-testing.

    I’M SORRY BD
    WHAT WAS THAT?!?!
    WOTC WOULD NEED A LOT OF PLAY-TESTING?? ??
    MAN, YOU’LL HAVE TO TYPE LOUDER I CAN’T HEAR OVER EVERYONE YELLING “OH OH PICK ME! PICK ME!”
    :-D

    #516


  • Fighters are gonna be SO valuable for UK in this game.  The ability to sortie out of Britain to protect your new naval builds is gonna put alot of pressure on the German aircraft.  Or if theres a complex in Canada, UK can just build its navy there I guess and bring it over when it has enough planes.

    So UK is gonna have to worry about protecting its Atlantic Navy with fighters while securing it’s convoys, building units in India to protect against Japan, and sending forces to Africa to fend of Italy.

    I think they’re gonna be the most fun country to play in this game.


  • no people see why canada is important you can bulid planes\ships there so you bulid ground on the uk!
    good aganst sealion.

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