Jet Power – too powerful

I know there are other forums on this but I wanted to collect the best ideas here. What minor powers work best (balancing wise and being fun), preferably those without having to buy lots of extra pieces/ones that can use pieces from other games. But if one requires purchasing pieces and is really good feel free to add. Also not G40 specific but that tends to be the most common for minor powers. Thanks!

A sides offer to Italy may include turning over control of different powers to the player controlling Italy.

(e.g. Triple Entente can, in their offer, give control of the US to the Italian player as a part of their offer.)

-Midnight_Reaper

@gen-manstein

here ya go…

Young Grasshopper
Young Grasshopper SPONSOR Nov 24, 2011, 12:33 PM
ANNOUNCEMENT

United Kingdom Political Situation

“Government in Exile” - (Delta+1 final version)

Upon the first time London is captured by an Axis power:

The British government must exile to Ottawa, Canada. All British IPCs (Europe) must be given to the axis power that now controls London. The United States and Soviet Union must immediately declare war on all axis powers (if not already), and become allies with the United kingdom.

During exile:

The UK may collect income from all territories (Europe) that are still under British control. The UK may only mobilize new units from ICs in Canada.

After liberation:

The UK government may return to London, and regain all privileges of their previous sovereignty, or choose to stay in Canada until London stabilizes (decision must be made at the end of the UK turn). If London falls a second time while the government is there, they may not exile again, and all income, purchasing, and placement rights are lost until another successful liberation has been achieved.

Issues before Delta+2:

Whether or not the UK in exile should continue to collect income from all territories remaining in British control, or just territories from Canada.**

PS, I need to correct my previous post to clarify that Ottawa, Ontario would be the British location for GiE, while Montreal, Quebec would be the Free French (FF) GiE location.

Gotcha, thank you.  :-)

Played our first game of 1914 tonight and had a blast. Afterwards, we brainstormed some additional house rules (because gamers, I suppose), and one stuck out. Before I say this, let me note this is a very casual crowd.

Rule: A neutral minor power when attacked by one faction or the other sides with the one that did not attack it. If it is able to repel the invasion, it becomes a fully functioning member of the alliance it joined. It has IPCs, builds units, deploys them, and attacks.

Cause: Almost no reason not to attack some of these nations. Defeat means nothing- the scale of units involved means a small handful of units lost is not a true blow. The potential IPC gain outweighs the risk in all but a few instances. By making neutral powers a bigger threat, hopefully players will only attack those they deem important to a war winning strategy and not just as random acts of violence for IPC gain. This can lead to silliness with Switzerland and the Nordic countries along with Spain among others.

Mechanics: New factions get 6/8 IPCs plus whatever IPC total is on their territories. From this point we had some disagreement:
1- They are a fully active faction with no restrictions.
2- They can only attack the faction that attacked them and their territories.
3- They can only counter attack into the territories that the attack against them was launched

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I posted this in the 1914 forum, then I saw the House Rules forum.  I believe that is the forum suited for the idea. I would message the mods to move this thread but their profiles indicate they’ve been gone for a while. I apologize for my faux paus.

@AlphaKappa:

 Which Neutral Powers would have the economic equivalent of a “Minor Industrial Complex”?

I think Spain, Turkey and Sweden are the obvious neutral powers that have a large enough industrial base to build their own tanks, planes and ships. Depending on how the sculpts are going to look, I think the Italian burnt orange will fit Spain, and maybe the french dark blue will fit Sweden. Turkey already got their units.

Maybe use the medium green for Brazil, and lime green to supply China.

Maybe even Canada can have own nation specific units ?

The Russian maroon will fit Mongolia I guess

Since this topic is really not actually in the game, i consider it a house rule discussion.

and add these too just for giggles:

I dont favor planes getting a free attack… but to create combined arms situation each attacking plane in combat aids the attack of a tank with a +1 attack modifer at a 1/1 basis. consequently, each tank aids the attack of each matching infantry unit with a +1 attack modifier for each unit at a 1/1 basis. Now you wont buy those stupid stacks of infantry and the static infantry push mechanic is dead. You will now buy other crap to win….

In this “advanced system” below basically in ground combat with opposing air forces (both defender and attacker have planes) each plane hit is allocated to enemy planes. When the sky is cleared of planes, then air hits are allocated to ground targets. In fact air rolls are done seperatly from ground unit rolls. Note: The modifiers to land units are applied even if their is air combat.

Interception of Air Units (Counter air)
During your opponents turn, your fighters may intercept and may fire at moving enemy air units in range of their territory during the combat movement phase. The maximum range of interception is two territories distance from the enemy air units. One round of air interception combat occurs in any territory or sea zone that is within the two space range of the enemy air units. Your Intercepting air units are using their attack values, while the planes from the phasing player are defending. The planes performing the interception must now move back to their original territory. Following interception combat, the active player planes are simply moved to conduct their originally intended attack… No air interception can take place during returning air movement, non-combat movement or during air base changes.

Air Interdiction of Ground Units
Each Bomber can attempt to stop the movement of enemy units out of a given territory. The Bomber is placed into the space until the following turn when it can then be used for further missions. For each Armor class unit that attempts to move into or leave the space is subject to a roll of one D12. A roll of 1 and the unit is destroyed. A roll of 2-3 and the unit may not leave the space that turn. Air units that move across the airspace of territories with enemy Artillery units can be fired at by anti- aircraft rolls. This roll is done just prior to when the plane leaves the space.

Close Combat Ground Support
The use of planes to support ground attacks is a basic use of airpower. Each Fighter or Dive-bomber can aid each armor class two unit with a +1 attack modifier at a 1/1 basis. Defending ground units can call on DAS if they have fighters in range.

Defensive Air Support
During Ground Combat Resolution, defending fighters may move to an adjacent territory and participate in the defense of friendly ground units being attacked. Movement of these units takes one full combat round before they can be used. (Example: On round one, the defending player announces that he will dispatch fighters and on round two they are used in combat). All air units then fight combat rounds concurrent but separate to the current ground combat rounds. Aircraft called up for DAS missions are not committed to fight a minimum number of combat rounds. For example: defensive Air Support was called in on combat round one and ready to fight on round two, but the defender rolled very poorly on his first round and decided to call off DAS and not risk losing his planes. At the end of ground combat resolution, surviving Defensive Air Support (DAS) units must return to their original territory, if possible. All hits and loses from air combat are taken from those participating air units until 1) only one side has planes, 2) one side retreats their planes, or 3) one side retreats his ground units thus ending combat. Note: planes that “retreat” do not get a free parting shot from enemy planes. If one side has planes left over the hits can be applied to ground units for the duration of combat rounds. On their own turn they can still move into new combat missions, but they cannot perform multiple defensive air functions such as DAS and coastal defense. Only one action can be done on their turn, and one action delegated in a defensive action during another players turn.

Hope this helps somebody-