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I remember at one time Jen had a web site with a lot of pics, based on what I saw there the bathing suit pic is the real thing even if its 10 years old…  I also learned that Jen is a treky nut

M36 you don’t know me very well

@dezrtfish:

I remember at one time Jen had a web site with a lot of pics, based on what I saw there the bathing suit pic is the real thing even if its 10 years old…  I also learned that Jen is a treky nut

M36 you don’t know me very well

I had to have a lot of digital images of myself for the company’s web page.  Clients like to shop before buying time with an escort. :P

Anyway, I’ve always been a sci-fi geek. :)

@Cmdr:

@dezrtfish:

I remember at one time Jen had a web site with a lot of pics, based on what I saw there the bathing suit pic is the real thing even if its 10 years old…  I also learned that Jen is a treky nut

M36 you don’t know me very well

I had to have a lot of digital images of myself for the company’s web page.  Clients like to shop before buying time with an escort. :P

Anyway, I’ve always been a sci-fi geek. :)

i’m sure had you posted that last bit up, buisness would have been great… all those nerds who have no time to date but make tons of money would surly pay to spend some quality time with a lady who they can talk Klingon too  :-D

Why does my Hamburger have BBQ sauce on it!!!I didn’t order that!! I’ll eat it anyway.

Homosexuallity is wrong (came up at school) man+women=child=human race lives another day (not saying that gays are putting down the population) man+man=……, women+women=…WTF!!

Why do pople yell out “I hate the persident. I hate our govt. Bring our troops home. America is poor.”? Don’t like it…GET THE FREEK OUT! In some ways I hope we do pull out of the middle-east so I can watch all those protesters and naggers die by the barrel of an AK  :evil:

It’s American to say “I hate the President.”  It’s not American to say “I hate the government, capitalism, and liberty.”  And that’s all I seem to hear from half the elected officials in Washington DC and all of the candidates running for President.

As for BBQ on your burger, sucks to be you.  I hate it when I get mayo on my burger.  Spicy Brown Mustard, Pickles, Lettuce, Red Onion, Tomato and maybe horse radish is all I need.

Just get the Imperialist Federal Government out of my bedroom, out of my church, out of my wallet, and off my land.

That is all I ask… essentially the same request that John Hancock had when he signed that little document for King George back around early July 1776…

As for the escort thing…
Jen is not the only one…  I paid for a significant portion of my education that way…

its super american to say i hate the government.  screw em.  just make sure another nation or foreigner doesnt kill me.

almost missed this one.

@Smacktard:

@dezrtfish:

I guarantee I didn’t oppose the old picture I thought it was rather pleasant and looked forward to seeing it when I logged in.  If Jen puts the bathing suit pic back up I’ll put a pic of me in my bathing suit up… wait that may not necessarily be motivation…

I am probably the only conservative atheist in the room 
I think Prostitution is great although I’ve never indulged.
I like Guns and own 15 of them.
I like to kill defenseless animals that are trying to hide from me at long distance and then eat them.
I think abortion is murder.

Wow, I feel strangely liberated…

I’ve never met a prolife atheist. Why do you think killing a twoday old fetilized egg is just as morally wrong as killing a 30 yr old mother of 3? A fertilized egg has none of the qualities that we assicoate with “personhood” (consciousness, memory, rationality, empathy, etc.), so why is terminating it as wrong as killing an adult that DOES have those qualities we identify with personhood?

Let me start off by saying that I am not going to debate or argue this position. It’s what I believe and amazingly enough, I don’t need to use religion as a cop out to explain my morality.

btw, if that’s the definition of a human life, we need to start clearing out all the assylums.  Those people obviously aren’t human.

@ncscswitch:

Just get the Imperialist Federal Government out of my bedroom, out of my church, out of my wallet, and off my land.

That is all I ask… essentially the same request that John Hancock had when he signed that little document for King George back around early July 1776…

Amen brother.

And the greatest President in American history was probably Thomas Jefferson - Author of the Declaration of Independence; legislator in the Continental Congress and later in the first governing body and later President of the United States.

In 1800, Jefferson ran for president, along with fellow Republican Aaron Burr. The Republicans believed that the rights of the states and individuals should be protected. They wanted to curtail the powers of the federal government. The Federalists, the opposing political party, were in favor of a strong central government. Jefferson referred to them as “monarchists in principle.”

He went on to double the size of the United States at a very good price without the need for bloodshed and repaid France for their kindness in our Revolution. (Louisiana Purchase).

When our ships were ruthlessly attacked by the British Navy, Thomas Jefferson did not go to war, he did not issue an ultimatum, he did not enter the European conflict - he just placed an embargo on all European nations.  Later presidents, faced with the exact same situation, would declare war on England which resulted in Washington DC being burned to the ground, and hence the Presidential Mansion needing to be white washed to cover the scorch marks and being renamed The White House.

Thomas Jefferson disbanded much of the Federal Army and Navy instead relying on the states to have their own militias that could be called upon in a time of war.

And, he paid off what little debt we had at the time and did so without raising any taxes at all.

Honestly, I’d love to elect him to office today.  Yes, he was a bit of an isolationist, but honestly, can that be really bad?  Why do we, as Americans, have to stick our nose in everywhere?  If the nation of Ik wants to kill off citizens who are over the age of 50 so as to reduce strain on their socialized health services, why is it OUR duty to go save them!?  What if Ik has nothing for us, they don’t buy our goods, they don’t provide any services we need, their existence or non-existence has no bearing on our lives whatsoever.

Why do we NEED a huge standing army!?!  We need Fort Benning, Pearl Harbor, Norfolk, and a few other training bases with just enough of a standing army, navy and air force (marines I’m lumping in with navy, same with Coast Guard) to train the individual militias of the states to an equivalent level of training and tactics.

Why do we NEED to be stationed all over the world???  TJ would never keep forces in Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Italy, England, etc, etc, etc.  He might keep them in Saudi Arabia, because of the value of the commodities found in the region.  But I highly doubt he’d want to be elsewhere.  Especially with Russia being a non-threat now.  Not exactly an ally, but a non-threat.

Why do we NEED the government involved in everything!?!  Let the states decide marriage.  Let the states decide taxes.  Let the states decide abortions.  Let the states decide just about everything.  Better yet, let the states have the individual counties and cities decide most of this.  The only thing the government should be involved in are those aspects in life that need to be legislated that encompass all the states:  Interstate Commerce, Interstate Shipping/Travel, Radio/Television, etc.  (it would be bad if Illinois said that your station got Frequency 1 and Indiana said another company got Frequency 1.  You’d have conflicts along the border.)  Etc.

If a local mall wants to put up a nativity scene, they should be allowed to do so, without repercussions by being sued just because one family is atheist or of a competing religion.  Likewise, if a group of Wiccans want to go into their own backyard, put up a bonfire and have a wild orgy, they should be allowed to do so.

Honestly, if I were President of the United States, and had 48 Hours to pass any laws I wanted without approval of Congress or the Supreme Court, I’d have our government reduced in size by 98%.  I’d have the national debt paid off in two years (followed by a massive cut in taxes afterwards.)  After that, I’d have savings accounts for the Government set up so that the government could run off the interest instead of off the backs of the people.

Not to get into a political discussion (defined as Republican vs Democrat) it’s just how I think the founders would have wanted things and my lament that we have turned from the idealistic principles that made this nation great and turned towards the principles we have today.

@dezrtfish:

almost missed this one.

@Smacktard:

@dezrtfish:

I guarantee I didn’t oppose the old picture I thought it was rather pleasant and looked forward to seeing it when I logged in.  If Jen puts the bathing suit pic back up I’ll put a pic of me in my bathing suit up… wait that may not necessarily be motivation…

I am probably the only conservative atheist in the room 
I think Prostitution is great although I’ve never indulged.
I like Guns and own 15 of them.
I like to kill defenseless animals that are trying to hide from me at long distance and then eat them.
I think abortion is murder.

Wow, I feel strangely liberated…

I’ve never met a prolife atheist. Why do you think killing a twoday old fetilized egg is just as morally wrong as killing a 30 yr old mother of 3? A fertilized egg has none of the qualities that we assicoate with “personhood” (consciousness, memory, rationality, empathy, etc.), so why is terminating it as wrong as killing an adult that DOES have those qualities we identify with personhood?

Let me start off by saying that I am not going to debate or argue this position. It’s what I believe and amazingly enough, I don’t need to use religion as a cop out to explain my morality.

btw, if that’s the definition of a human life, we need to start clearing out all the assylums.  Those people obviously aren’t human.

Even people clinically insane have consciousness, rationality (within their own strange belief system (i.e., the tin-foil hat will stop the govt from spying on me)), memory, and, in most cases empathy (though it may be weirdly misplaced).

A fertlized egg doesnt have ANY qualty we normally associate with “person”. Try it- think of a person, any person. I bet you weren’t thinking of a fetus or blastocyt  :wink: If you only had one fire-truck and two fires (one at a fertility clinic the other at  an orphanage), where would you send the fire truck?

The kindest thing you could say about it is that it will eventually become a person. But then I plan on eventually becoming a millionaire. What are the chances of me walkiing out of a bank with a $500,000 loan because I may someday become a millionaire?

Not necessarily true.

A lot of people define a person as any being with human DNA who is not “brain dead”.

In that case, zygotes, embryos and fertilized eggs would be considered persons.  Unfertilized eggs and sperm would not be considered persons.

However, I will concede that YOUR definition of a person excludes Zygotes and Embryos.  Then again, if you are using your definition of person, there are a lot of people that are legally defined as persons who would not fit in your definition.  Adolf Hitler used the definition of person, by trimming it down, to reclassify Jews as non-persons.  Same with slave owners in Europe and America.

I’m not saying YOU are like Adolf Hitler or Slave Owners.  I am just pointing out how redefining the word Person can be used to justify any atrocity against people you wish to inflict on them.  It’s especially easy to inflict atrocities on those people that cannot even speak in their own defense (mentally handicapped, children, unborn babies, etc.)  Especially those people that cannot only not speak up for themselves, but are not yet considered “cute”.  (Ever wonder why we don’t eat Puppies and Kittens?  Not because they’re poisonous to us!  It’s because they are CUTE.  We eat Cows and Potatoes because they are not CUTE and they are nutritious.)

Back to Switch’s point and my previous chorusing of his point:

Get the government out of my damn womb!  He’s worried about his bedroom, I’m worried about them infiltrating my person and telling ME if I have hosting a parasite, cancer, or human being!

@Smacktard:

@dezrtfish:

almost missed this one.

@Smacktard:

@dezrtfish:

I guarantee I didn’t oppose the old picture I thought it was rather pleasant and looked forward to seeing it when I logged in.  If Jen puts the bathing suit pic back up I’ll put a pic of me in my bathing suit up… wait that may not necessarily be motivation…

I am probably the only conservative atheist in the room 
I think Prostitution is great although I’ve never indulged.
I like Guns and own 15 of them.
I like to kill defenseless animals that are trying to hide from me at long distance and then eat them.
I think abortion is murder.

Wow, I feel strangely liberated…

I’ve never met a prolife atheist. Why do you think killing a twoday old fetilized egg is just as morally wrong as killing a 30 yr old mother of 3? A fertilized egg has none of the qualities that we assicoate with “personhood” (consciousness, memory, rationality, empathy, etc.), so why is terminating it as wrong as killing an adult that DOES have those qualities we identify with personhood?

Let me start off by saying that I am not going to debate or argue this position. It’s what I believe and amazingly enough, I don’t need to use religion as a cop out to explain my morality.

btw, if that’s the definition of a human life, we need to start clearing out all the assylums.  Those people obviously aren’t human.

Even people clinically insane have consciousness, rationality (within their own strange belief system (i.e., the tin-foil hat will stop the govt from spying on me)), memory, and, in most cases empathy (though it may be weirdly misplaced).

A fertlized egg doesnt have ANY qualty we normally associate with “person”. Try it- think of a person, any person. I bet you weren’t thinking of a fetus or blastocyt  :wink: If you only had one fire-truck and two fires (one at a fertility clinic the other at  an orphanage), where would you send the fire truck?

The kindest thing you could say about it is that it will eventually become a person. But then I plan on eventually becoming a millionaire. What are the chances of me walkiing out of a bank with a $500,000 loan because I may someday become a millionaire?

Every person I thought of was a fetus once  :wink:

I’d send the fire truck to the one that had the best chance of saving.  Or the one that started first or the one that was closest… :roll:

Your comparison of the millionaire thing is off base.  If I thought you becoming a millionaire would inconvenience me would it be right for me to steal all your monney and sabotage your buisness?

@JWW:

@ncscswitch:

As for the escort thing…
Jen is not the only one…  I paid for a significant portion of my education that way…

Even I am afriad to touch this one……

Not much to tell.  I was a male escort back when I was younger (fresh out of the Academy actually).  I was young, USAF Academy D&C was ingrained into me, and I was built such that I was a pretty fair catch (still not bad, but not like I was 30 pounds ago…).

I was a male escort, primarily for middle aged single professional women.  My best client was a woman who at the time had just turned 40.  She was a well built junior executive for PPG who was single and a serious workaholic.  When company social events rolled around, I served as her “arm candy”.  At the same time, I also served to provide her with “immunization” against all of the ‘offers’ from other employees and vendors of PPG that could have been a detriment to her career.

I was a perfect gentleman during corporate functions.  And afterwards we would both sweat and get a really good workout.  In exchange, I received funds to pay for my education, spending money, and the cash needed to restore the classic car I was working on.

There were others besides her, but Elizabeth was my favorite and most frequent.

I was wondering what I was going to be doing after I get out of the Corp. This “escort” business sounds profitable.  :mrgreen:

Most of the political discussion in this forum has been silly and kind of narrow minded.  Even if you disagree, there really never was a reason to type in all caps or make personal attacks or act elitist.

Additionally, I strongly advocate anarcho-communism.  Jermofoot is hardly a communist, he just has some left wing ideas.

Even though I just called myself an anarcho-communist and used the term left wing, I hate political labels.  We really need to stop using conservative and liberal, theyve lost their meanings and are all being used pejoratively and are just throwing a wide range of political beliefs into 7-12 letters.

Yes prostitution should be legalized.  Theres probably a ton of things that are illegal that shouldnt be, including drugs.

Why is it when a left winger speaks his mind it is “free speech” but when a right winger speaks his mind it is bigotry and intolerance?

Bigotry and intolerance are still free speech.  However, having the right to say something bigoted doesnt make it any less racist/sexist.  I mean, you should still be allowed to say it, you should be allowed to scream it from rooftops, but it might not change the fact that whatever youre saying is intolerant.

And on religion: Im a highly skeptical agnostic.  I wont say atheist beacuse thats just as much of a dogma as blindly following religion.  I say highly skeptical because i really doubt in the existence of a god, especially the institutions put in place now with modern religions, but you just cant rule out the existence of some sort of force that set the universe in motion.

I dont know or care if jens old picture was her.  While were on the subject, everybody post pictures of yourself, i want to see who im talking to.

This thread needs to stay open so we cant b**** about each other and not get banned because of rules in this forum that treats us like we’re in kindergarten.

I agree, escorting wasn’t always about “sex”.  Sometimes it was.  But a lot of the time you are attached to someone who was from out of town, or a business function, or whatever to add status to them.  Helps if you are articulate, well groomed, etc.

Very true.

The one Christmas Party in particular was about being there, and being a shield for her.  The fact that we had sex the following morning was not related to the reason I was with her at the party.

Thumbs up to Cobert re the Political labels. I rarely talk about my political view online anymore due to labeling. I don’t like either party or sides stances 100% and it just seems to devolve into being labeled something I am not.

@dezrtfish:

I guarantee I didn’t oppose the old picture I thought it was rather pleasant and looked forward to seeing it when I logged in.  If Jen puts the bathing suit pic back up I’ll put a pic of me in my bathing suit up… wait that may not necessarily be motivation…

I am probably the only conservative atheist in the room. I am ezto, the liberal atheist
I think Prostitution is great although I’ve never indulged. I aprove prostitution too, but i havent seen the need to participate in any yet  :-D
I like Guns and own 15 of them. **I like guns too, sadly i only own a super soaker  =[[/b]
I like to kill defenseless animals that are trying to hide from me at long distance and then eat them. Good, as long as you eat them =]
I think abortion is murder. Good for you, just as long as you dont stop other people from making the choice themselves.

Wow, I feel strangely liberated… me too http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gMrbOB26rqC1rDocYemjluC58zaA finally the report came out to shut some mouths in this forum!**