VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1


  • @DoManMacgee

    Yes, I will always submerge (unless it’s a battle against the Russian sub).


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United States to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Denmark Strait Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to Iceland
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 fighters placed in United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    AAE-game11-A1.tsvg

    I don’t know if you’re keen on tracking stats like TGC is but in general USSR did very poorly while WA did very well.


  • @DoManMacgee

    Yes he taught me how to do it. I will calculate the stats at the end of each round.


  • Net pieces / TUV Round 1


    Atlantic: -1.66 / -4.66
    Eastern Front: -5.43 / -9.95
    Total: -7.09 / -14.61


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 15 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 submarine moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                  Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Baltic States to East Poland
            2 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
            2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to East Poland
            20 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
            1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 bomber moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria
            1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Rumania to East Poland
            1 fighter moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 fighter moved from Finland to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            15 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0,50
    British regular : -0,50
    

    Savegame


  • Net pieces / TUV Round 1


    Atlantic: -1.66 / -4.66
    Eastern Front: -1.22 / +2.57
    Total: -2.88 / -2.09

    I accidentally swapped a plus and a minus in Ukraine. That’s why the numbers were so low for Germany, I was already wondering 😂


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia
            1 artillery moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            16 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Karelia
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
                Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 artillery and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Moscow
    
        Place Units - Russians
            6 infantry placed in Leningrad
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 24 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 0.00
    Russians regular : 0.83
    

    Need to pause and think on UK/US turns. will get back in a bit.


  • @VictoryFirst 3e6fd75b-4b37-497f-a753-63aa4d9a88be-image.png

    British attack Germans in Sicilian Sea. Is your OOL:
    Damage BB -> TT -> DD -> BB?
    or
    Damage BB -> DD -> TT -> BB?
    or something different?


  • b921aa6e-aae3-4654-993b-885e40bdffe6-image.png @VictoryFirst

    For reference, here is where we are in the current combat: (First round of combat was 1 hit a side. I tipped the BB for Germany since it was obvious).


  • @DoManMacgee

    Yes, you can kill the TT before the DD.


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 carriers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Syria to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
                  British take Tunisia from Germans
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                British win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
            Battle in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans and 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
                1 fighter owned by the British retreated
                Germans win with 1 battleship remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Libya
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad
            1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
    
        Place Units - British
            2 carriers placed in Atlantic Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 17 PUs; end with 22 PUs
            1 unit repaired.
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.83
    British regular : 1.33
    

  • @VictoryFirst Americans attack Germans in US Convoy (6 IPC Value):
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    [dice 4d6<=3]


  • 4d6<=3: 6, 1, 3, 4; Hits: 2


  • @dicebot Sub Fires back:
    [dice 1d6<=2]


  • 1d6<=2: 1; Hits: 1


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Baltic States
            1 fighter moved from Iceland to Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                  Americans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans
            3 fighters moved from United States to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Baltic States
                Americans attack with 1 bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
            3 fighters moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 fighters placed in United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 48 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.33
    Germans regular : -0.33
    

    AAE-game11-A2.tsvg


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            8 armour moved from East Poland to Leningrad
            2 fighters moved from East Poland to Leningrad
            1 fighter moved from Finland to Leningrad
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Germany to Leningrad
            6 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                  Germans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Americans
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Leningrad
                Germans attack with 8 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters
                British defend with 2 fighters; Americans defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 7 infantry
                    Russians roll AA dice in Leningrad : 0/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Leningrad, round 2 : 9/14 hits, 7,17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                    6 armour owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad
                    7 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Leningrad
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Leningrad, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 4,17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Leningrad, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the British lost in Leningrad
                Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
                Casualties for Germans: 6 armour
                Casualties for Russians: 7 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 artillery and 20 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
            2 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            15 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Germany
            3 fighters moved from Leningrad to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary
            3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 battleship moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
    
        Place Units - Germans
            8 armour placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 47 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 1,17
    Germans regular : -0,00
    Russians AA : -1,00
    

    Savegame


  • @DoManMacgee

    I will get the statistics for round 2 and 3 at a later point, don’t feel like to crunch the numbers right now, mostly because I’ve spent a lot of time in the morning calculating stuff from you guys’ games 😅


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            5 armour, 2 artilleries and 29 infantry moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
            1 submarine moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone
                  British take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from Germans
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 bomber
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Leningrad
                Russians attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 34 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 2 armour and 1 factory
                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 34 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 11/42 hits, 9.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour in Leningrad, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad
                    2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad
                Russians win, taking Leningrad from Germans with 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 32 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 armour
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Moscow
            1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Russians
            8 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 2.67
    Russians regular : 1.83
    

    UK/US turn later. Need to map some stuff out + take care of some things at my job.


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
                  Russians take Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                  British take Algeria from Germans
            1 fighter moved from Libya to Caucasus
            1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Baltic States
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Baltic States
                British attack with 1 bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
    
        Place Units - British
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.67
    British regular : -0.33
    

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