L24: Arthur Bomber Harris vs Farmboy (A+41) OOB


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris just realized I forgot to say I assumed a submerge in 19 on the last US turn. Doesn’t effect anything on the other side I think if you were to reconsider.

    And this looks just about over but will try another turn


  • @farmboy if you think submerge was the best option, I trust your judgement.


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris I assumed because you had done it on the prior one and the odds were substantially in my favour. But the odds of losing the sub were low and if your sub and your destroyer hit on defense I would have to lose a fig. But if my sub hit, you would definitely lose the sub as I had a ton of air. Not a critical decision by any stretch, but decided to go through for speed and meant to confirm after.


  • @farmboy probably very close decision. Let’s just proceed as played.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18 '17

    TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 14

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 14
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians repair damage of 3x factory_major; Remaining resources: 16 PUs; 
            Russians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
            2 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
            17 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Smolensk
            2 fighters moved from Russia to Vologda
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Smolensk
                Russians attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk
                Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Samara
                Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 31 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 31 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 13/33 hits, 6.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara
                Russians win, taking Samara from Germans with 2 artilleries and 30 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Vologda
                Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda
                Russians win, taking Vologda from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Russia
            2 fighters moved from Vologda to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Korea to Amur
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 aaGun and 16 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Russians
            5 infantry placed in Russia
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 11 PUs; end with 12 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : 8.67
    

    Savegame


  • triplea_40891_14jap end.tsvg

    finally no convoy raiding!

    Game History

    Round: 14
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 4 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
                  Japanese take 20 Sea Zone from Americans
            1 bomber moved from Japan to 19 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 19 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 19 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Java
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Java
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to New Guinea
            1 fighter moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 artillery moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Korea
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Korea
            1 bomber moved from Japan to Korea
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
                  Japanese take 6 Sea Zone from Americans
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Korea
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Java
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Java
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Java, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Java, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Java
                    2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 bombers in Java, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in New Guinea
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters
                ANZAC defend with 1 fighter
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in New Guinea, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter in New Guinea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in New Guinea, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter in New Guinea, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in New Guinea, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter in New Guinea, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in New Guinea
                    1 fighter owned by the ANZAC lost in New Guinea
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 fighter
            Battle in 19 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 19 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 19 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 19 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 19 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 19 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in Korea
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Americans roll AA dice in Korea : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Korea, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 aaGun owned by the Americans and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Korea
                Japanese win, taking Korea from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Americans: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe
            1 bomber moved from Java to Celebes
            1 bomber moved from Java to Celebes
            1 fighter moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 19 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 bomber moved from Korea to French Indo China
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Japan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 19 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from 19 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Yunnan to Anhwe
            1 bomber moved from Persia to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Anhwe
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Anhwe
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Anhwe
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Anhwe
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Anhwe
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 transport placed in 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in India
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
            4 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 36 Sea Zone
            1 bomber placed in Japan
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Sikang: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kazakhstan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Timguska: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Novosibirsk: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Timguska: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Yakut S.S.R.: 1 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Anhwe: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to French Indo China: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.83
    Japanese regular : -4.00
    Americans AA : -0.50
    ANZAC regular : -0.33
    


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris I think my situation has moved from desperate to hopeless. I’ll concede here. Well played and congrats on the win! And congrats also on what should be the championship!

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  • @farmboy Thank you so much for the match. Such a pleasure with the fast game pace and difficult positional calculations. You pushed me to the limits with so strong of a defense for Russia. I could not break through into the Middle East for so many turns.

    You also had great gameplay in China. That small miscalculation in India was costly and difficult to recover from. Japan was struggling for a long time with Anzac’s hold on one of the islands. It was a relief when the spending finally shifted to the Atlantic.


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris it was a great match and a lot of fun. I do think the misjudgement around India, and also earlier with the UK fleet in the med were the big errors I made. The former gave you a secure hold on India and the latter slowed down my allied game in Europe. That being said, I don’t want to explain my loss through my errors. You played a solid smart game and deserved the win. There were points at the end where I thought maybe I’ll be able to make a break through and turn things around and you stopped me every point. And it was clear at the end there that whatever I did, you were going to have Moscow in two more turns.


  • @farmboy that’s the beauty of bombers. I had the quadruple threat of Sea Lion, attacking the Atlantic fleet, and attacking down to Iraq. It is so hard to keep up the arms race against Germany.

    I think your bid was a bit low. Probably a different outcome with Allies+50-ish which has become the new norm.


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris the bombers are definitely a challenge. A bit more bid would of course help. But I do think a win is doable at this bid and would love to try it again down the road.

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