[Game 4] TGC (CP) v DoManMacgee (Entente) -oob, no bid, RR

@Ragnell804

Interesting. My very first D-Day game was as the Germans against TGC and he was already 30+ games in I think. Yet I still managed to win. So I’ll be shocked if this game is not imbalanced in favor of Germany. I’ll keep a close eye on you guys’ game.

@VictoryFirst No worries. Yesterday was a holiday in the US so I did that have the time or enthusiasm to jump into another game immediately.

@VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1:

I didn’t know your exact strategy before this game, during the game I realized I could afford to build one more round of tanks without Berlin becoming in danger.

I think with the balance this strategy might have some more success, as long as you put a little more money into attacking Berlin as well.

TGC and I discussed this same potential weakness (Germany builds the extra round of Tanks because Berlin is not in danger) in the strategy last week when I initially rolled it out so I assumed he’d shared my concerns with you as well. I am going to spend some time thinking about ways to strike a better balance of force distribution and get back to you. I am not very good at making major innovations on the fly, unfortunately.

@The_Good_Captain

Submerge

@dawgoneit oops. wrong thread

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 8 Combat Move - Italians 2 Adv.Fighters moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter and 1 Fighter moved from 48 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone 2 Fighters moved from 48 Sea Zone to Kufra 1 Artillery and 1 Elite moved from El Agheila to Kufra 2 Infantrys moved from El Agheila to Kufra 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from Rome to 46 Sea Zone 1 Artillery, 1 Infantry and 1 Transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from 48 Sea Zone to Tobruk Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Artillerys, 13 Infantrys, 1 Submarine, 1 T.Boat and 2 Tanks; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat - Italians Battle in 42 Sea Zone Italians attack with 2 Adv.Fighters Americans defend with 1 Submarine Italians roll dice for 2 Adv.Fighters in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 Submarine owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone Italians win with 2 Adv.Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Americans: 1 Submarine Battle in 51 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 Adv.Fighter and 1 Fighter British defend with 1 Submarine Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter and 1 Fighter in 51 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 Fighter owned by the Italians and 1 Adv.Fighter owned by the Italians retreated Battle in Kufra Italians attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 2 Fighters and 2 Infantrys French defend with 1 ArmoredCar and 2 Infantrys Italians roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 2 Fighters and 2 Infantrys in Kufra, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 ArmoredCar and 2 Infantrys in Kufra, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kufra 1 ArmoredCar owned by the French lost in Kufra Italians roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 2 Fighters and 1 Infantry in Kufra, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits French roll dice for 2 Infantrys in Kufra, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kufra 2 Infantrys owned by the French lost in Kufra Italians winBritish win with 1 Submarine remaining, taking Kufra from French with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 2 Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Italians: 2 Infantrys Casualties for French: 1 ArmoredCar and 2 Infantrys Battle in Tobruk Italians attack with 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry British defend with 1 ArmoredCar Italians roll dice for 1 Battleship and 1 Cruiser in Tobruk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 ArmoredCar owned by the British lost in Tobruk Italians win, taking Tobruk from British with 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 ArmoredCar Non Combat Move - Italians 2 Fighters moved from Kufra to 48 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter and 1 Fighter moved from 51 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from N.Algeria to S.Algeria 1 AAGun, 7 Infantrys and 3 Tanks moved from N.Tunisia to S.Algeria 1 Artillery moved from Tunis to N.Tunisia 3 Infantrys moved from Tunis to N.Tunisia 2 Infantrys moved from Baleares to 43 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 43 Sea Zone to Languedoc 2 Adv.Fighters moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from Rome to 46 Sea Zone 1 Destroyer, 2 Infantrys and 1 Transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 48 Sea Zone to El Agheila Place Units - Italians 1 T.Boat placed in 51 Sea Zone 1 Submarine placed in 48 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys placed in Greece 1 Artillery, 1 Infantry and 2 Tanks placed in Tunis 4 Infantrys placed in Provence Italians undo move 4. 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Artillery, 1 Infantry and 1 Tank placed in Tunis 1 Artillery, 6 Infantrys and 1 Tank placed in Rome Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 66 PUs; end with 67 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.50 Italians regular : -0.50

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 9 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 battleship, 7 infantry and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone Americans take 20 Sea Zone from Japanese 10 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 18 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 18 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 submarine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Marianas to 23 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 23 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry, 2 marines and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 7 carriers, 2 cruisers, 7 destroyers, 10 infantry, 2 marines, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 7 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from 20 Sea Zone to Okinawa 1 armour, 1 artillery, 10 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from New Zealand to 55 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 48 Sea Zone to New Britain 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 31 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 4 submarines moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 cruiser owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 5 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 cruiser owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 3 Battle in New Britain Battle in Okinawa Battle in Guam Battle in Shantung Battle in 55 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone Americans win, taking New Britain from Japanese, taking Okinawa from Japanese, taking Guam from Japanese, taking Shantung from Japanese with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Battle in 7 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 10 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 7 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 7 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 destroyer, 10 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Battle in Kiangsu Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 12 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Japanese defend with 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 6 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 12 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Kiangsu, round 2 : 1/16 hits, 3.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Kiangsu, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kiangsu 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Kiangsu Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 11 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Kiangsu, round 3 : 3/15 hits, 3.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Kiangsu, round 3 : 5/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kiangsu 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Kiangsu Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Kiangsu, round 4 : 3/10 hits, 2.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Kiangsu, round 4 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kiangsu 3 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kiangsu Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Kiangsu, round 5 : 4/8 hits, 2.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Kiangsu, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kiangsu 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 artilleries owned by the Japanese lost in Kiangsu Americans win, taking Kiangsu from Japanese with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Americans: 9 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry Trigger Chinese Destroy Factories Kiangsu Americans: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Chinese in Kiangsu Non Combat Move - Americans 10 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to Wake Island 2 aaGuns moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 battleship, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 126 Sea Zone to Iceland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 6 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 battleship placed in 104 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 artillery placed in Central United States Americans undo move 3. 2 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Central United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 artillery moved from Hopei to Anhwe 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung UK_Pacific take Kwangtung from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Fukien Chinese take Fukien from Japanese Combat - Chinese Battle in Anhwe Chinese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Anhwe Chinese win, taking Anhwe from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi Place Units - Chinese 6 infantry placed in Kiangsi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers and 4 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Eastern India to Burma UK_Pacific take Burma from Japanese 1 armour moved from Burma to Eastern India 3 submarines moved from 78 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Norway Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 aaGuns, 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 115 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 4 aaGuns, 1 armour and 5 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway Place Units - British 3 infantry placed in Egypt 3 infantry placed in Southern Persia 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 fighter placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 fighter

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.67 Americans regular : 0.17 Japanese regular : 0.33

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@VictoryFirst I tried but it won’t attach to an email. If you’d rather, we can just call it a draw.