L21 Colt vs Gambler6(L+12) BM3

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan Combat - ANZAC Battle in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan ANZAC attack with 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC retreated to Egypt Italians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 64 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 59 Sea Zone to Java ANZAC take Java from Dutch 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java 1 cruiser moved from 65 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from New Zealand to New South Wales 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales Place Units - ANZAC 1 artillery placed in New South Wales 1 submarine placed in 64 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs Politics - French Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 cruiser placed in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 artillery placed in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in French West Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French West Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Central Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove: has removed 1 cruiser owned by French in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove: has removed 1 destroyer owned by French in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove: has removed 1 artillery owned by French in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Madagascar Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Guiana Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in French West Africa Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 destroyer moved from 74 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar Turn Complete - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 64 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 43 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.33 ANZAC regular : -0.83

Savegame

If you wanted to keep DD, CRU+BB-hit in sz92, please let me know and I will reroll both sz92 battle and Algeria battles

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Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 7 artilleries and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Rostov 3 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Southern Belarus 5 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 fighter moved from Northern Belarus to Ukraine 1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 3 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 3 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia Place Units - Russians 3 artilleries placed in Ukraine 3 artilleries placed in Leningrad 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Urals Russians undo move 3. 1 artillery and 6 infantry placed in Russia Russians undo move 3. 3 infantry placed in Stalingrad 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

@mikawagunichi

Please use this file with the updated Russian NCM (with sub moved from SZ 93 to SZ 94).

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Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 airfield, 1 destroyer and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 armour moved from Romania to Northern Italy 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 100 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco Combat - Italians Battle in Morocco Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; French defend with 3 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 aaGun and 4 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Morocco 1 aaGun owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Morocco Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits French roll dice for 3 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Morocco 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Morocco Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in Morocco, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits French roll dice for 2 infantry in Morocco, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Morocco Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in Morocco, round 5 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Morocco Italians win, taking Morocco from French with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11 Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Casualties for French: 3 infantry Battle in 100 Sea Zone Italians attack with 3 fighters French defend with 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 3 fighters in 100 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits French roll dice for 1 destroyer in 100 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in 100 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the French lost in 100 Sea Zone Italians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter Casualties for French: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Italians 2 fighters moved from 100 Sea Zone to Greece Place Units - Italians 1 airfield placed in Gibraltar 1 destroyer placed in 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Libya: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Tunisia: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.67 Italians regular : -2.50

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 6 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Britain 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 55 Sea Zone to New Britain 1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Queensland to Kwangsi 1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Hunan 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Amur 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Amur Combat - Japanese Battle in 48 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 48 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in 34 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 34 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in Caroline Islands Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Caroline Islands 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands Japanese win, taking Caroline Islands from Americans with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in New Britain Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in New Britain, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in New Britain, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in New Britain 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in New Britain Japanese win, taking New Britain from Americans with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Hunan, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Amur Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Amur, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Amur, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Amur 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Amur Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Kwangsi Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangsi 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangsi Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangsi, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangsi 1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangsi Japanese win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kwangtung 2 artilleries moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China 2 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Manilla to 21 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from 21 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 artillery and 1 marine moved from Western Australia to 57 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 marine and 3 transports moved from 57 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Sumatra to 38 Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 38 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 armour moved from Northern Australia to Queensland 2 battleships, 4 carriers, 1 cruiser and 3 destroyers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from New Britain to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 48 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Jehol 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Amur to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 fighter moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 64 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in New South Wales 3 infantry placed in Kwangtung 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 62 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.33 Americans regular : 1.33 Japanese regular : -2.33 Russians regular : 0.33

Savegame

@surfer said in L24 BM4 Surfer (Allies+23) vs Avner (Axis):

@Avner Happy Thanksgiving…
Scramble in SZ6?

to you ;) even if we don’t celebrate it in Italy :)

no scramble thx

@surfer

thank you very much, that is kind. But please let me know how you feel about it, do you like to continue and finish that way? Do you prefer me to just concede and so ensure that we are done by end of December? At least I can see how desperate my position in the game is