WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion

@All-Encompassing-Goose

Oh, I get it now!

So the AI just confused. Makes sense.

I have looked for threads that deal with this but they are sort of rambling and don’t quite answer all my questions. If you can point me to a thread or pdf that explains it all, that would be great. Otherwise a response here for these questions/comments will be greatly appreciated. Also, the Notes tab in the game itself does not address most of these. And I am interested in what the Triplea rules are now, not the original game rules. Thanks.

If Japan attacks Dutch islands, UK can declare War on Japan, correct? Does that include Anzac can do the same? Or do one or both automatically go to War with Japan if Dutch are attacked? And does AI handle properly?

If French Indochina is attacked, same question. UK/Anzac can declare war or are they immediately at War? AI handles properly?

For both 1. and 2. above, I assume that if they are at War with Japan automatically, that the US can then declare War on Japan? OR, if UK/Anzac simply can choose now to go to War, then if they attack Japan, the US can not go to War until the proper turn?

Can Anzac and UK declare War on Japan at any time in all cases? If that is the case, then the answer should be that an attack on the Dutch or French IS an act/declaration of war by Japan and that US can then also go to War in their next turn.

With Russia, I have noticed that it is very hard to not have the Mongolians join Russia, even if Russia declares War 1st. But, am I correct in remembering that if Russia attacks Manchuria first, then Mongolians will not join Russia even if Japan takes back Manchuria and attacks Amur?

Thanks!

MASTER LIST-New aircraft Types, Units, & Special Rules

TYPE & Description          UNITS                                                                                                                     SPECIAL RULES  
                                                 Germany      Italy      Japan      America      Britain      Russia      Anzac      France      China

Seaplane Fighter                                                                        Catfish
Early-War(Army) Figher       ME-109      C202      Oscar      P-40  
Early-War(Navy) Fighter      ME-109      C202                      Wildcat
Fighter(Army)                        FW-190      C202      Tony       P-51
Fighter(Navy)                        FW-190      C202      Zero       Hellcat      
Long-Range Fighter
––Two Engine                   ME-110                                     P-38
Jet Fighter                            ME-262                  Kikka
Fighter-Bomber                                                                    *P-47
Attack Bomber
----Two Engine                  JU-88                                       *B-25
                                                                                               *A-20
Tactical (Light) Bomber    JU-87      BA.65      Val          SBD
                                                              JU-87      Kate        TBD                                                                                
Medium Bomber                                                                  
----Two Engine                  HE-111     BR-20      Betty    B-25
Heavy Bomber                                                                    
----Four Engine                  JU-488      P.108      Rita      B-17
VLR Heavy Bomber                                                            *B-29
Jet Bomber                          Amerika
Air Transport                                                                  
----Two or Three Engine  JU-52      SM-79      Topsy    C-46
                                                                                               *C-47
Recon                                   DO-17      DO-17
Seaplane Recon
----Two Engine                                                                   *PBY
Seaplane Long-Range Recon
----Four Engine                                                  * Mavis    *PB4Y
                                                                              *Emily

More later,….I gotta Go now.

“Tall Paul”

@Yavid:

nations with an “old bb” piece from HBG I’ve replaced improved mech inf. tech with heavy battleship tech. HBG become the standard BB and used at set up and can be purchased until you get the tech. After you get the tech you can buy the OOB battleships as heavy battleships. These Heavy Battleships are 4/4/2/20 units just like standard but take 3 hits to sink and roll two dice in combat taking the best roll and using it.

Interesting idea, though I’m not sure if I want to make it a “tech” thing, especially since all the nations had new BB’s already in production before the war started.  I’d be more inclined to make it a “tech” ability to create a TRUE SBB along the lines of Yamato, Montana or H-class (and perhaps Sovietsky Soyuz, and, perhaps even more arguably Iowa, Vanguard and Lion), of which the Yamato is the only one we’re likely to have a piece for any time soon (and of which only the Yamato was ever actually built)… I might try something along these lines, along with maybe a “super-cruiser” and/or “super-carrier” tech if and when I ever decide to try using some of my painted NAVWAR or Panzerschiffe pieces on a very big map like GW1939… but I don’t see the likelihood of having AA-scale pieces of any of the other true SBB’s any time soon.

Another idea: perhaps old BB’s could be a 3/4/2 unit or a 4/3/2 unit; the rationale here is that the “real world” speed difference may not be enough to make a difference in the category of strategic mobility (which is what speed really represents in game terms, and most especially on the smaller board versions) but rather that the old/new speed difference should be understood as more an issue of “tactical” mobility which could put old BB’s in a combat disadvantage on either defense or offense?  If so, though, in which of the two would the lack of tactical mobility be more important?  I’m leaning toward it being a bigger disadvantage on offense, but I’d be interested in hearing other opinions.

In any case, keep in mind, for all of you out there who plan to use some sort of “old BB” house rules, that classic BB pieces are about perfect for this while we’re waiting for HBG to get to all of the nations’ version of one.  Similarly, the classic version’s carriers are almost perfect for generic CVE’s.  Variable or Coach, do you guys have classic pieces available for these two unit types for most of the relevant nations for those who don’t have oodles of them lying around?

Got some more info here:

http://ww2total.com/WW2/Games/WW2-Games.htm

for the most part I like 'em - except it adds A LOT of complication & new stuff to the game. (Stalinist paranoia and the China rules, for example). Being sort-of opposed to IC’s in general and the somewhat long-ish ranges that fighters can potentially have, I gobbled up those rules pretty quickly. …mostly though, I borrowed a lot of the ideas to make simpler versions of these rules.

could someone just give me the words alone??? my comp doesn’t like word pad :roll: …