General 6 Stars 1941 WW2 Game

@barnee said in General 6 Stars 1941 WW2 Game:

@General-6-Stars Good action. Nice to see another game report. Sea lion F yea lol

Captain and Company still coming over this year ?

AS of now no.

@The-Captain said in General 6 Stars 1941 WW2 Game:

Hi General,

How is it possible for Germany to capture London on turn 4?

The UK player can see the German Build Up of Naval, Air & Land forces in preparation for Sea Lion - does the UK player then have an option to hinder the invasion from being succesful ?

What did the UK player do to prepare for the German invasion ?

“But Captain were at full power now” ! lol

Sealion happened on turn1. Turn 1 just wasn’t mentioned at start of thread. It says then on turn 2. Anyway

Germany influenced Spain on turn 1. So Germany got 6 inf, art, tank, aaa gun, fig, tac, cruiser, destroyer and a transport. Took Gib which they need to do to help Italy get the Med island bonuses and force US to go to Morocco and or Gib instead of West France. But not now ?
Does the US move fleet or fleets from Pacific to Atlantic side ? US can only go to either side on turn 1. Other wise good luck.

So Germany now has 2 extra ground from Spain with transport to go to London. Germany brings 2 SS panzers, 1 SS inf, 2 paratroopers, 1 inf and 1 general from Germany and all planes that can make it to London and land safely. The air transport was shot down with the paratroopers but with Spain ground that helped. You could still do sea lion without Spain.
But keep in mind if UK gets Radar Flak for NA then AAA guns hit at @3.
It has changed minds before. At least there’s more ways for Germany to go. They even lost Leningrad. But can make up points in Pacific and MED along with Cairo.

Pretty much can only do sea lion on turn 1 unless UK screws up later. Still keeps it in time frame. So Germany took London. Ottawa becomes new capital. Germany gets 48 icps from UK. The London factory becomes a minor worth 6. The Factory in Canada becomes a 6 build minor instead of a 3.
UK on there turn 1 took back London which they need to do to destroy the IC so Germany doesn’t get it. Neither does UK. UK will have to buy one on there turn. UK also took out all of Germany’s navy and 3 transports on there turn. Got really good dice rolls.
But last time sea lion happened the Germans had there fleet left with transports and it took until turn 4 or 5 for allies to liberate London. Just kept going back and forth for taking London until US showed up.

On turn 2 Germany had like 8 subs left over from attacking other UK fleet. Huge first strike kills plus 2 rerolls misses from Sub commander Donitz. Then Germany just went out and hit every convoy box they could reach.

That changed the game up big time. UK couldn’t get a factory in Cairo until turn 2 but not build till turn 3. Axis to much for UK to hold Cairo.

Gonna be sweet to see how the allies counter next time. May force US pacific to attack Manilla turn 3 or 4 or a US fleet goes to Atlantic side. Time will tell.

Next game Sept 23 Saturday at 8 am at the General’s Fortress in Kenosha Wis. Anybody is welcome to play and or show up and check out the game.

@The-Captain said in General 6 Stars 1941 WW2 Game:

Okay, I see.

What is the turn order - which Nation goes first, second etc.?

So, if Germany realy wants to capture London on turn 1, there is no way of stopping them…?

Turn order
Germany
Russia, Com China
Japan
UK, France, FEC, Anzac
Italy
USA, China

If Germany really wants to capture London turn 1, there is no way of stopping them ?
Probably not.
No Spain influence, UK NA AAA guns D@3. I’ve seen other attempts fail based on AAA gunD@3. Germany changed its mind at the start of games.

Are you looking at something to do or just want to see how it all goes down ? Did you try it yet in a game ?

@The-Captain said in General 6 Stars 1941 WW2 Game:

We didn’t try the game yet - we´re training for the 3rd Northern Europe Axis & Allies Wiking-Con in November this year.

The 3rd Northern Europe Axis & Allies Wiking-Con is held in Denmark - OOB Global 1940 2E with the Axis & Allies Global 1940 House Rules Expansion.

I expect that we will try your 1941 game this year - but if Germany can capture London in turn 1, I already know the answer from our members…

What is the answer then if London can fall on turn 1 from members ?
I don’t see no reason why it should affect anything.

@The-Captain said in General 6 Stars 1941 WW2 Game:

@General-6-Stars

I’ll try the setup - can I use the game board that you’ve sent me by e-mail ?
The map might need an adjustment concerning Normandy if I remember correctly…

Then I’ll discuss it later this coming autumn with the players.

Yes. Normandy was adjusted long time ago. What is the concern with sea lion ? Don’t agree on it ever happening ?

@The-Captain said in General 6 Stars 1941 WW2 Game:

@General-6-Stars

Concerning Sea Lion - if it is obvious that Germany can capture London on turn 1, all games would start with that scenario.

This would nuisance the overall game - and make it less attractive to players.

In comparison, the OOB Global 1940 2E game is unbalanced, simply because Germany can capture Moscow within a few rounds.

Please remember - all our players (53 players) are playing Axis & Allies Global 1940 House Rules Expansion.

This game is as close to 100 % balanced as possible.

The Global 1943 Expansion is balanced in the same way.

OK. Thanks for replying.
Well I’ll have to disagree with you on your opinion regarding Sea Lion.

So then your saying OOB G40, Germany should start with the capture of London ? It would help Moscow.

But it shouldn’t matter if Germany can take London turn 1 mostly.
This is one more option for axis to manuever in the game. Germany differs from Moscow and make allies counter it and now Russia is a bigger player in game. But as I said there’s draw backs to it for Germany based on other things in game.
If every game starts with Germany controlling London then it its restricted in game options.
Ask the players in group every game is different. Just saying.
I was never a fan of SL but if it gives axis more options in game for a win and also there is a way to counter it as the allies then OK.

At least in my game there is many options for axis to win. Not just take 2 capitals in most games. Japan needs to help also like most games don’t in a way. But IMO and has nothing to do with your expansion game.

Keep in mind that I have a bunch of other stuff in game that combines together and the axis has many ways of winning which still is in historical ways.

Ya there is just to much to write on this discussion.

Let me know how it goes in November with group.

Got a game this Saturday Sept. 23 at 8 am at the General’s Fortress. All generals have there orders !
Will post some pics and outcome.

New bonus axis 1 point for control of all of Burma Road.
Assam, Burma, Yunnan and Kweichowz based on all LL cutoff from allies. Plus still in game 1 victory point for Rangoon.
Keep in mind if AB is damaged in Assam no LL from the Hump into China

Sat game ended with the axis having 30 points at the end of turn 5.

Germany did sea lion and UK & US decided to not take back London but use Morocco as there hub. UK was able to hold Cairo from the axis and send some troops to the oil lands and then the plan was to take Turkey back next turn with Russia. But game ended by then. Russia lost a lot of good pieces fighting back the Germans but no major push from Germany.

Italy to win the game or get back the 30th point was to take back Tunsia
and Gib to block any move into the Med.

On Pacific side Japan hit one of the US fleets at a start of game. Trying to slow US down but US and allies were doing pretty good taking back victory cities for most part of game. Then Japan attacked the US fleet and defeated them with all US transports dying. SO US took back the oil bonus points from Japan but as you can see on next turn Japan would of gotten them back and the axis would of probably won on next turn if they had to from what it looks like.

Was another great game with new stuff happening and yes Japan had total control of the Burma road for a point and Rangoon along with Chinas capital but on last turn Allies took back all 3 victory points but just came up short.
It was nice to see a lot more fighting in Burma !

@barnee said in General 6 Stars 1941 WW2 Game:

@General-6-Stars Good Action ! Dig your Game Reports

Thanks barnee. Ya not enough pics. Got 2 new guys and had to help one out more. Guys helped other guy.

Be another game in 4 weeks. Tweaked the tech a bit and about it.

We had another game last Saturday. Looks like the allies will win. Germany lost West Germany and Paris plus US landed in Manilla. Japan should take out US fleet and then Anzac next turn but Axis Europe just lost to much.

Will need to see if Germany can take out Moscow next turn. If Moscow holds then they will hold Stalingrad too based on reinforcements.

No sea lion this game. But we did make a minor setup change to UK London. Added 2 more frenchy inf to London and moved the general from Scotland to London.

Up to UK now to shoot down a few planes so now they have a slightly better odds on holding. UK must take back London on there turn no matter what so the German minor factory there is destroyed.

If Germany influences Spain then they have the advantage.
Pic will be of turn 2 and turn 4.