19L axis-dominion (+4) vs KILL! (allies) bm3

Bid Placement is:
1x UK DD sz 91
1x UK Sub sz 98
1x China Art in Szechwan

Oh, and you were taking too many high risks, and all of those risky battles that bit you, they added up quite significantly.

I’m reviewing all Vichy rules available out there, as I plan to make a unique mod, because I like historical realism and simplicity, with minimized luck of dice, and some “asymmetric balance”.

Some major points I’ve posted elsewhere in the forum:

The main issue for this expansion is how to develop French neutrality, while at the same time providing a bonus to Germany. Apparently ignored by most players, in real life (IRL), Germany economically exploited Vichy, which had to richly sustain 300,000 German troops stationed in Northern France. Therefore, in the game, it only makes total sense that Germany gets the 3 IPCs from Vichy Southern France.

Another related major issue is what to do with French colonies in terms of neutrality/occupation and IPC flows. I agree that the Vichy setup should reflect what happened IRL: North Africa, Syria, and Indochina go to Vichy, while other French colonies stay Free. However, it messes up Italy’s incursions into North Africa (as IRL, Hitler denied French colonies to Italy). I’m not sure yet as to the best approach to subjecting these colonies to invasion, occupation, and who gains IPCs (other than agreeing that Japan has easy access “rights” over Vichy Indochina), and also remote units…

Germany never fought Vichy. IRL, with Operation Torch, Germany simply occupied Vichy in 1942, with no resistance whatsoever. Vichy units were disbanded. That can be also the case in the game. Just remove Vichy units.

The uncertainty surrounding local pre-battles is quite interesting (will Vichy troops welcome or resist Allies in North Africa?..). However, I’d try to minimize dice randomness that is often used to decide some outcome. IRL, Vichy troops (just like Italians) surrendered as soon as seeing enemy superiority: thus, in the game, if Allies send more land + air units than defending Vichy units, then there should be no battle but quick surrender. Or, make it highly unlikely that a battle would ensue (for example, need to roll a 1).

I’m now working on my own house rules, for an expansion (HBG lingo) that is quite realistic, fun yet simple. If anyone is interested, let me know and I’ll be happy to share my rules when ready…

phd_angel@yahoo.com

Chicago, December 2020

@cyanheath

Welcome. All depends on what you want in your game. Play ability or more historic.

Yes there is a lack of room on a d6 dice. No room to adjust pieces better. Mostly the Cruiser and Destroyer.

Also you probably should remove your Ad for buoys.

@axis-dominion said in 19L axis-dominion vs majikforce (allies) bm3:

@majikforce if you want, I can go axis again. give you another chance to redeem your allies ;)

LOL! Let’s see if I qualify as insane. Doing the same thing over again expecting a different result. I’m down! Fire it up!

@lebowsky I agree, this is a lost cause. germany will soon corner and destroy your Russian forces in scand. and will overtake the Middle East. hard to stop the euro axis powers at this point. and Japan is strong in its own right. gg

go ahead and start the next one up as axis. we can make it a 2019 if you wish, and go at whatever pace you find comfortable.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 10 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 75 PUs; Germans buy 1 airfield, 3 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 mech_infantry moved from Nenetsia to Smolensk 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 7 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 bomber moved from Germany to Bryansk 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Bryansk Combat - Germans Battle in Bryansk Germans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 10 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 9 infantry AA fire in Bryansk : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 10 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Bryansk, round 2 : 9/18 hits, 6.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 9 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits 8 infantry owned by the Russians, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Bryansk, round 3 : 6/15 hits, 6.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 9 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 3 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 3 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys in Smolensk, round 2 : 5/18 hits, 5.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 3 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Ukraine 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Yugoslavia 2 carriers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 8 armour moved from Ukraine to Smolensk 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Ukraine 1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Yugoslavia 9 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Smolensk 5 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone 3 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt Place Units - Germans 1 airfield placed in Yugoslavia 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers placed in Ukraine 3 armour placed in Novgorod 1 infantry placed in France 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 5. 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany 1 infantry placed in France Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 2.17 AA fire in Bryansk : : -0.50 Russians : -0.67

Savegame

@axis-dominion gg