BM3 axis-dominion (Axis+3) vs Karl7 (Allies)

inf in holland

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Holland Belgium: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Holland Belgium: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the French, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                    AA fire in France : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in France
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 : 6/18 hits, 5.67 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                    1 aaGun owned by the French, 5 infantry owned by the Germans and 5 infantry owned by the French lost in France
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 3 : 4/13 hits, 4.83 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in France, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 1 artillery and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 4 : 2/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in France, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in France
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 3 artilleries, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 10 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 10 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 5/15 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    5 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
                Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
            triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            2 bombers, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France
            1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium

Place Units - Germans
            1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Germans undo move 1.
            1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -5.17
    British : -0.67
    French : 0.50
    AA fire in France : : 0.83
    Neutral_Allies : -0.67

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 3.83 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Korea to 36 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu
            2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese : -0.33
    Japanese : 2.17

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@Karl7:

so the dd off Aus prevent my US ships from parking there?

says who?

@Karl7:

note edit

just curious, did u mean to leave your fig in Gibraltar? is that just a clever temptation for me?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
                  Italians take British Somaliland from British
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 96 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Gibraltar
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                British defend with 1 fighter and 1 harbour
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Gibraltar, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Gibraltar, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Gibraltar
                Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter

Non Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from British Somaliland: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Ethiopia: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
            1 armour moved from Albania to Romania
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia

Place Units - Italians
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6
            Italians collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : 1.33
    British : 1.00

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sure just put it where you want it, and reimburse my fallen inf in gib

@Karl7:

@Karl7:

wait, did I forget to move the ftr off Gib?

Ho lee!

That was an error!  :-o

You think I can get a mulligan on that?   I’d obviously allow full Italy redo….  :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P