Conduct Convoy Disruptions

@Narvik:

To me it looks strange that you can force a man to fire his guns against his will……

… but this does not change the rules ;-)

And as ChocolatePancake said:

@ChocolatePancake:

… If the player does not want to do the convoy disruption he/she has a very easy way to do that: don’t leave ships in the convoy zone.

Ok, thanks Carter….anyway, the rules are not enough clear about this point IMO
And really not sense…because any submarine comandant are going to be “on station” over a convoy and only look them until UK turn?..hehe…sorry…not sense…the convoy disruption must to be on the agressors time. Well, if the rules are in this way, just follow them.
Thanks again

And submarines / fighters on carriers can do 2 damage under the new Alpha 3 convoy rules.  (Under the old, Submarines could do up to 2 to each enemy nation bordering the convoy zone.)

@knp7765:

SZ 109 is really good, especially if you can get it with SZ 119.  If Germany, or Italy, can get 4 subs in SZ 109 and 1 sub in SZ 119, you can nail England for 10 IPCs of convoy raiding even though the adjacent territories are only worth 8 IPCs (United Kingdom 6, Scotland 2) because SZ 109 borders both United Kingdom and Scotland.

lol
yeah right
if i only got 1 apple, you can’t take 2 away, so raiding 10 instead of 8 is BS hein ;)

@Admiral_Thrawn:

That’s not a bad idea Grasshopper! AA50 does have a lot of stuff to add to AAGlobal1940! Like Italian Tanks for one thing! Always felt that the convoys are distinctive enough on the board and you are bound to miss them if you are not super thorough. AA Europe convoys were so good for the battle of the Atlantic and wish we could have that for AA Global40.

Much agreed, A&A 50th AE, I believe will become know as a turning point, or bench mark in the whole franchise. I’m worried about all those counters getting in our way, and I would like to get some plexiglass soon to cover them and the game board.

@Krieghund:

During your Collect Income phase, check for any convoy sea zones that are adjacent to territories that you control and that also contain warships (not transports) belonging to powers with which you are at war.  For each such sea zone, first add up the total IPC value of the adjacent territories that you control, giving you the maximum number of IPCs that you can lose in that zone.  Then, add up the total number of enemy warships (submarines count as two) to get your potential losses in that zone.  Finally, subtract whichever of those two numbers is lower from the income you collect.  Repeat this process for each eligible sea zone.

Example:  Italy controls Southern Italy, Northern Italy, Yugoslavia, and Albania, and there are two UK submarines in sea zone 97.  The total IPCs controlled by Italy adjacent to sea zone 97 is 10.  The two subs can destroy 4 IPCs.  Since 4 is less than 10 (the damage done is less than the maximum that the sea zone can sustain), Italy subtracts 4 IPCs from the income it collects.

but say, greece has 2 adjacent convoy zones, can greece lose 4 IPC?
i thought no, but not sure. wouldn’t be very logical
and what if german has greece and yugolavia, and US puts subs in adriatic sea. do they do convoy damage to germans and italians at same time?

@JimmyHat:

Is China affected by convoy zones?

No.

@Peck:

Does a sea zone have to be uncontested for a convoy disruption to work?  Japan sub beside java (uk owned) uk rolls in a crusier to kill the sub,  sub submerges.  Does the sub still cause a convoy disruption?

A seazone does not need to be uncontested - the simple presence of an enemy ship disrupts the convoy, even if friendly ships are in the same seazone.  If the allies has a ship in SZ6 at the mobilize units phase of Japan’s turn, Japan could not prevent the disruption in any way, even if they placed a far numerically superior force.  If there’s an enemy ship, it disrupts - end of story.

“Submerging” has no impact on any game phase beyond the combat phase - it is ONLY an ability of the submarine to disengage from the battle and remain in the same seazone.  The only time submarines can “submerge” is during combat and after combat is over, submarines are no longer considered submerged.  It is simply a retreat mechanism, it does not exist in any manner outside of the conduct combat phase.