Paris Failure

@StuckTojo:

Don’t forget, depending on what the UK does with its fighters, you may also be able to take France with Italy if you don’t want to wait until G2.

Right. But I think it is more than a “may”.

Oddly enough we had this conversation at our last global game.

We came to the following conclusion: There is no time when Germany fails to take Paris that it is not the fault of the player running Germany. Germany has enough resources to have a 100% battle in Paris each and every game OOB.

The only time this might not be true if the Allies place part of the bid in Paris. Otherwise, if you fail to take Paris as Germany it is YOUR fault.

Man up and risk the AA shots if you want absolutely certainty in the Paris battle! Yeah, losing planes to AA sucks, but better to lose a plane than the game when you don’t take Paris.

Marsh

@ShadowHAwk:

@simon33:

@StuckTojo:

Don’t forget, depending on what the UK does with its fighters, you may also be able to take France with Italy if you don’t want to wait until G2.

Right. But I think it is more than a “may”.

If you nearly miss the battle for france what can the UK do? Land 4 fighters and a bomber there. you can attack with 5 land and 3 air units.

I actually think it’s five fighters and a strat bomber that the UK can land in Paris. If I recall correctly, that gives Italy at best a 75% chance of taking France.

Really though, Germany is already hosed if Italy has to take France. It’s a waste of the RAF to do land it all in France for a one in four chance of holding Paris.

Marsh

This just happened to my friend as we were playing TripleA. He had a chance of ~80% to take Paris but the dice were against him, leaving me with two tanks and a fighter. Although he did well in the Atlantic, Germany was pretty hard pressed now, as he also had declared war on Russia. I offered him to just restart the game but he refused. Italy was able to claim Paris the same round but the always brave and hard fighting French took it back with no casualties. Now here’s the fun part: on round 2 Germany failed to take Paris again. A surrender of Axis quickly followed.

Oh well, the games are 1-5 for me this year.  :roll:

Wrong.

I lost an 88% battle that I could have made 100%. My fault. I got greedy and went after an inconsequential transport by diverting one ship, which would have put me at 96%. I could have brought the strat bomber too, and that would have capped it at 100%.

Yeah the dice went against me. It’s my fault for leaving that possibility open!

I don’t recall you losing any 99% battles in that game.

I don’t think it’s game over for the Axis if Germany fails to take Paris on round 1, but it will definitely make for a harder game for them.  Also, let’s not forget that Germany could succeed in taking Paris but due to dice lose most of their units in the process.  I’ve seen Germany take Paris with only 1 or 2 tanks left.  That can be nearly as devastating as not taking Paris.
As far as Sealion goes, I think it is off the table if you don’t take Paris round 1.  Instead of buying all those transports, you will have to replace all those land units that you lost in the first battle, plus you won’t have the 70 IPCs to do it with.
We had a game where Germany failed to take Paris round 1 and round 2 and Italy failed on it’s first try, but got it on the second round.  This was a total suck fest for the Axis because they were also trying the “Operation Cloverfield”, where you fake a Sealion, jump down to Gibraltar after Italy captures it and try invading the Eastern US.  Without the Paris money, Germany didn’t have enough transports/land units and failed to take Washington.
So, Berlin was raped by the Red horde, UK went down and took Rome, which lasted longer than Berlin, and the US was able to go hog wild in the Pacific.  Once they successfully defended their capital, I don’t think there was a single US piece on the Europe board.  Poor Japan was just trounced.

Welcome back knp7765!

But you basically saying that Axis will loose the game :-D.
It will be as you described it.
The US will be on a rampage in the Pac. while Russia doesn’t need much support from her Allies friends. Just UK to lock up the Med. and bomb Italy back to ancient Rome.