I apologize to all in advance for the length of this post…
@Adam514:
Everything you did was legal JWW
I and everyone else who is following this nonsense realize that but thanks.
@Adam514:
but that doesn’t necessarily make it right.
You are wrong it does make it right. There is no other arbiter other than the rules we all agree to follow.
@Adam514:
The purpose of my comments on this thread was to make the situation between you and Pherman known
That�s cool, it will be interesting to discover what the League community thinks about all of this.
@Adam514:
My opinion on what you did wrong in that game, since you asked for it, is as follows: You laughed at an edit request.
Correct, I wrote the word �funny�, I found the request to be both funny/odd and funny/ha ha.
@Adam514:
Unless it’s a joke made by your opponent, I don’t see how it is anything less than a disrespectful act.
Perhaps, he, you and others find my writing the word funny as a sign of disrespect. If that�s the case I am glad he didn�t see the look on my face when I read his �reasonable� request! You know Adam, the way I was raised, where I come from, respect is earned. Playing 3 rounds of A&A w/me doesn�t earn anyone my respect. If he is so thin skinned that this one simple word caused his major melt down then I actually feel bad for the guy and I am NOT the empathetic type.
@Adam514:
Furthermore, the edit was perfectly reasonable
I can�t disagree with you more on this point.
@Adam514:
the map appeared to show some of your units in the wrong territory.
Let�s be perfectly clear, the units were in the correct territory! In fact, in many, many, instances with stacks of multiple units in small territories in triple A the map, at a simple glance, can be confusing. That�s why there is a Territory tab! You are aware, I am sure, of the Territory tab? Was it not his responsibility to ensure where these units were? A simple yes or no will suffice here Adam and I am happy to wait for your response.
@Adam514:
There are only 2 reasons that I can think of right now that would make what you did correct: you don’t believe that your opponent’s map showed the units in the wrong territory,
Sigh, again, to be clear for everyone that needs to distinguish what was or wasn�t right about this situation, which is your stated goal here Adam. Triple A had everything correct, the map wasn�t wrong, PHerman simply screwed up. He made a mistake, as we all do, pure and simple. That�s it, case closed, the BIG mystery has been revealed! It�s only a game, he should have accepted his mistake and moved on…… like most of us do.
@Adam514:
On another note, why would you even want to win a game because of some interface mistake?
I don�t understand why you keep casting responsibility for PHerman�s fcuk up on me or Triple A. There was NO interface mistake. Why don�t you place blame for this where it belongs?
Also, although PHerman�s mistake was going to cost him his small ITA/Ger fleet it wasn�t game ending! Perhaps a 20-30 TUV swing?!? Once he came to terms with the fact that I wasn�t going to let him off the hook for his laziness, let�s all be honest here that is all this is, he requested that we continue the game, he apologized to me and he stated that he was going to �whoop my ass�! We can certainly speculate as to what happened after I obliged him and continued playing but as I suspected, he wasn�t long for the unrespecting, harsh world, of our A&A League community.
And for all the PHerman apologists out there who think this type of edit is reasonable, I ask you this, where does the rationale for requests/demands for this type of edit end? How often will we hear players lamenting about what they missed? �STOP the game, I thought those ITA mechs were in Bessarabia not UKR, I need to go back and change my russian turn. What do you mean you wont allow this, there were large stacks of units positioned closely on the map together, you clearly should allow this edit. I shouldn�t have to lose 20-30 + TUV because of this triple A error !?!?!?!??!?! Perhaps we should make a new rule where we can all stop the game when we screw up so that we can instantly remedy our mistakes and laziness.?
In nearly all of my losses and I would suspect in most of yours, some level of blunder was made on the losers side. Something wasn�t seen, something was overlooked, we moved too fast, we didn�t check the territory tab or didn�t run the proper battle calculations. I guess from now on, going forward, some would argue we should be able to stop the game, demand/expect, that our opponents allow us to go back a few countries turns and change our attacks, perhaps purchases, non coms and the like because we screwed up….this is absolute and utter nonsense…
Personally I come from the face to face and Abattlemap world where edit�s, redo�s, and the like simply didn�t exist. I have always thought of our League as an online version of the GenCon tourneys where the best come to play to test their skills, yes, in this game. I found PHermans request as odd and unreasonable and therefore wrote �funny�. I would never ask for nor grant this �going back in time� edit because someone was lazy and didn�t do their due diligence. There is nothing special about this situation other than my opponent felt that he was special and that he was entitled to me obliging this unreasonable edit. His subsequent actions portrayed to me that of an entitled child who didn�t hear the word NO enough from adults around him.
I would hope that other League players agree with my position and take on how the League is to be run. We have a thread for non-league games that aren�t tracked for records, playoffs and the like. I would argue, for players that want to be able to make these reasonable �go back in time edits� that the non league gaming thread is for you. At the very least if you request such an edit and your opponent abides by OUR rules and says no, you should have enough respect for our league and it’s rules that you simply continue playing without making threats, innuendo�s and the like.
JWW
