Situation in the Mid-East

Wow. Thank you.

@COJOH said in Victory Condition Question:

@The_Good_Captain That would be interesting to know, because when I received the answer on my question that time, we ended our Europe game and… my brother (Axis) won from me. The allies were marching to Moscow in order to save them but were just one round to late; Germany took Moscow. So in a desperate attempt to strike back to Berlin with all available forces of the allies, my attack failed and Berlin survived, game over. Or not ?

According to what Krieghund said here, I would say yes.

@Krieghund said in Victory Condition Question:

@The_Good_Captain Hmmm. It seems when I answered this before, I neglected to consult the FAQ. The answer here is correct, and the answer in the other thread is not. I have corrected it there. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Yup, that makes sense. Thanks again guys!

@Krieghund ok tks

@andrewaagamer Ah ok, thank you very much. I haven’t really played this game yet. I started a game with my nephew, but we underestimated the time for the set up and the fact that we often have to go read the rules for this or that. We didn’t play much at all. And now I’m translating the rulebook in french and I was wondering if I should add this point to the original to make it clearer to understand. Thx.

I have a couple of more notes on the Rumanian Wedge:

As mentioned previously, the best thing for the Germans to do is capture and stack Baltic heavy. This can mean putting 4 inf in Poland for the Special Cash Advance and even using the transport to load two more in, if the Russians put a lot of inf in Lenin and you don’t want to attack it. If you concentrate on East Poland instead, Tank Push seems to fall apart. I think this is because the Russians have time to attack Belo on turn 4/5 with a lot of converted aircraft.

Buying strategy for Americans is generally sound, although I would rework the order. Instead of buying 1 fighter and bomber per turn, just buy 2 or 3 fighters the first turn. Then buy bombers. The reason is any fighters bought on turn 2 won’t make Moscow by Germany’s turn 5 attack. (Delay one round if the Germans are doing a 6 turn attack.) Again, this is assuming Germans are stacking Baltic States, which is what they should be doing.

The buy with UK is tricky. I would generally suggest at least one fighter, and probably one more aircraft. Consider saving some money for a fleet. The turn 1 with Western Allies is generally pretty tricky, need some more experimentation and tinkering to see what works best, and of course it changes depending on how Germans attacked and their luck.

-Now, for the actual Rumanian Wedge itself. It sort of kinda works. You have to be careful how many units you send. (I generally don’t attack the Russians if they are doing the Wedge. Again, I just focus up.) But the tricky part is if you send too many Russians, then there won’t be enough to defend Moscow. If Germans are doing a 5 turn version, you need everything within range of Moscow by end of turn 3. Delay one round for 6 turn version. The aim is to capture enough of the Balkans so that the Russians have enough money for a few more infantry per turn before the Moscow Battle. It is actually crazy how just two infantry can influence the battle. It can go from something like 67% to 48%.

I have to experiment with the Germans attacking the Wedge a bit more. I don’t know if it is beneficial or not. Will post more once I know. In general, I’ve found that Russians don’t have enough time to convert much allied aircraft.

In the first round take 1 artillery + 1 infantry on the transport and amphibious assault libya and move your battleship and destroyer in for offshore support while attacking from Tunisia as well (all ships should be in the Central Mediterranean sea zone). If Britain attacks your battleship, destroyer & transport on their turn with their fighter, destroyer and transport, you have the edge in defense numbers (4, 3, 1 vs. 3, 3 & NA) + the fact that it takes 2 shots to take down a battleship, so in essence its 4 vs. 2 and you should win this battle almost every time. On the 2nd turn, if Britain does not attack, pick up an artillery or infantry from Greece as well as the infantry from Crete for an amphibious assault on Egypt. You will have to use your battleship and destroyer to take out the British destroyer and transport, but again you have the attack numbers advantage (4, 3 vs. 3, 1) as well as the 2-shot battleship, so it is 3 vs. 2. Bring all of your forces from Libya to bear on Egypt along with the aforementioned amphibious assault. In subsequent rounds use your remaining forces to push through the middle east to Russia. This middle-east strategy does not seem very popular on the forum, but moving the German battleship, destroyer and transport to the Atlantic and leaving the British with all of their naval and ground units in tact will allow them to take Germany out of Africa rather quickly and force Germany to leave defensive forces in Greece and Southern Italy that could be used on the Russian front. You can move the German naval units to the Atlantic once the British navy is gone or continue to use them in supporting amphibious attacks on Palestine and Syria (if the British have not already vacated these areas). Taking Britain out of Africa has 3 benefits: it allows Germany to leave places like Greece and Southern Italy completely undefended and to shift those units to bear on Russia, it takes money directly out of the allies pockets and lasts longer than attacking the convoys and it will eventually expose the Russian southern flank and force Russia to shift valuable units to Caucasus for defense. I will admit, it does take time to get through the Middle-East to Russia, but I’ve used this many times and I’ve always gotten to Caucasus without fail.

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could always equalize it by taking away allies initial bid
that way, suppose they give the middle east to usa only. Then usa get’s 8 extra ipc’s a turn, but it will take awhile before 8 usa ipc’s can counter 12 german ipc’s attacking russia.
if they give some of it to the uk, it will take less time for the uk to help russia, but germany now get’s to take away money from uk when it takes that territory. If they give it to russia, then germany get’s to take directly from russia.
In any case, it will make the territories in the middle east key since they do a triple IPC swing instead of a double.